we should probably invest in making sure people have affordable housing, food, and healthcare before worrying about militarising space.
Don’t buy into the grifts. Dismantle them.
Starlink should be globalized. A planet only needs one low-altitude orbiting communications network. Better to standardize the technology and platform and let them contribute to one system than to have a dozen identical competing systems crashing into each other and fucking things up for everyone.
literally nasa
Don’t give bail-outs to billionaires.
You have NASA FFS. Just fund it.
Arrest Musk on violation of controlled substances acts, file immigration violation charges, invalidate his ownership shares due to securities fraud, as he falsified education and naturalization forms.
Or just emminent domain the shit. The Law is just made up right now.
No, we should regain control of our nation from fascists (this does not mean just replace the President), then nationalize SpaceX and Starlink, and make telecoms public utilities.
If not Musk should be forced from his roles in these companies. You cannot be a defense contractor and do ketamine.
I disagree.
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You already have a government space agency. Maybe give them more funding so they don’t have to rely on space-x to get their stuff into orbit?
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There’s a national telecom network already in place. It at least has the potential to be faster and more reliable, if it isn’t already… At least compared to low earth orbit satellite coverage.
There’s no good reason to continue providing Elon or his companies with any government handouts. Pull that funding and give it to… I dunno, students who have more debt than homeowners with a mortgage… NASA… Literally anything that helps people?
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I’ve been saying this for years. the footprint that spaceX represents in national launch authority is out of whack to say the least.
The only reason SpaceX exists is because Boeing and Lockheed managed to compete so badly the only solution was to merge their launch businesses.
So we had one launch company, then spaceX made it two providers, now its back to one because B-mart is using antiquated launch systems (single use).
this isn’t incorrect. ULA is a fucking pork barrel of hideous proportions. doesn’t mean we shouldn’t nationalize spacex.
You don’t nationalise a company (SpaceX) just because the existing government owned company (NASA) is significantly worse. What do you think would happen to SpaceX if they did nationalise it? Lol. It would go to hell, like NASA.
The government should not be responsible for things like this. The government should provide services for necessities for human rights and general standards of living, but they shouldn’t take over successful companies just because they couldn’t do it themselves.
NASA was pretty damn efficient with the budget they used to have.
The wasteful NASA storyline is tiresome and busted.
And why do you think they have zero budget? The government lol. You think if the same government takes over SpaceX they’ll all of a sudden give them the huge budget that they need?
We shot a space telescope half way to the sun and are observing the dawn of the entire universe.
And you just wanna see a bigger penis rocket🌈
Sending something one way into space isn’t hard. Having it come back is. Having it, and all the parts that it took to get it there and back, be safely returned to earth and able to be reused is stupidly hard.
Like I said, I value the space telescopes more than the Rockets that take them into space. I like the Mars Rovers more than the penis rockets.
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You haven’t put your eggs in any basket. SpaceX are a private company. The government owns NASA, they can pour money into that and hire people to do what SpaceX are doing. Hell, they could poach people from SpaceX!
Why do you think they haven’t already done this? Because the government don’t care about it. If someone else will do it they can use them to provide their services via ludicrously expensive contracts, and give them massive subsidies, as is the Government way.
The government taking over SpaceX is not something anyone with even half a brain should be wanting. It makes ZERO sense. It doesn’t matter who owns it privately, just not the government because they will fuck it up and/or neglect it - like they did with NASA and most of their other projects.
You haven’t put your eggs in any basket.
$38 billion in government funding. huh.
what reality do you live in?
That’s not putting eggs in a basket, that’s just wasteful government as always. The same government that you guys want to take control of SpaceX lol.
Best time would’ve been when he pulled that stunt in Ukraine, second best time is now
When’s the last time the US nationalised something?
Racism. 1776.
The automotive manufacturers General Motors and Chrysler were partially nationalized in the wake of the 2008 Financial Crisis as were several banks… these were less a full government takeover and more of a government guided restructuring, but the government owned large stakes in these companies. Before that, the only full nationalization of anything substantial was the bankruptcy of the Penn Central Railroad and subsequent establishment of Consolidated Rail (branded as ConRail) the US’s only national freight rail company.
Conrail was later privatized into what is now the private companies CSX and Norfolk Southern. The collapse of Penn Central was the largest bankruptcy in history until Enron in the 1990’s. Amtrak, our national passenger rail corporation, is also a nationalized entity created around the same time as ConRail, for similar reasons, and is still nationalized (although the Trump admin wants to privatize it).
I think during world war 2. But things were worse then 15% unemployment and people still had massive economic leverage. I don’t think the US government is nationalizing anything anytime soon now. Neither party will participate in it because they are in the pockets of the oligarchs.
Tiktok?
LOL You can’t nationalise foreign companies.
You can do so to the local subsidiary
Tencent would never allow it.
Besides it’s software, that has no subsidiaries.
If it were cars like BYD or Geely then maybe.
In this case there is nothing to steal.Tencent would never allow it.
The US has a sale-or-ban order in force right now, it is not up to Tencent, but the Taco King right now.
Besides it’s software, that has no subsidiaries.
You must mean assets. I’m talking about the legal entity, that’s what subsidiary means, a local US sub-company owned by the Chinese parent company. US Tiktok operations are owned by the local US subsidiary Tiktok Inc, incorporated in California, owned by Bytedance. That ownership relation is entirely regulated by US law.
In this case there is nothing to steal.
$10 billion in US revenue, the market share and the cultural, societal and political impact of the platform is there for the taking.
Whatever you say, I want to see them try.
There will be consequences.
Conrail?
Throw Musk in prison for his many documented crimes, but don’t support this kind of dictator shit.
There’s already NASA which gets piss poor funding iirc
