• 2ugly2live@lemmy.world
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    15 days ago

    I think that was amazingly awesome. The people saying there’s a time and place, you’re correct. This was the time and place. Take a stand, make noise, make people uncomfortable. Quiet compliance is what got us here in the first place.

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      15 days ago

      Also like, it’s fucking Aoteroa. In colonial nations one must be prepared for indigenous members of their government to perform cultural acts of resistance when the colonist faction of the government gets up to some shit.

      From the other side of the world I saw her actions powerful and warranted. Though I do come from a country with a history of far less reasonable displays of dissatisfaction in our legislature.

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        15 days ago

        Which one is that and what are the displays? (if you don’t mind sharing, of course)

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          It’s America, so in the modern day it’s mostly relegated to shit like reading the phone book or if lucky reading incredibly long relevant things. But we’ve had fist fights and duels as a result of congressional conflict.

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    15 days ago

    Parliaments have rules dictating behaviour for good reason. If they don’t then discussion break down into chaos. So should they be punished? Absolutely.

    The severity of that punishment depends on the type of haka and what was intended by it. In all the coverage I’ve seen no translation of what was said. A haka can be anything from expressions of joy to a declaration of war.

    If the point was to intimidate or worse, then throw the book at her. Just as someone using intimidating or violent language would be ruled against. Doing it in a way specific to a particular culture does not get you protection.

    If it was just a display of Maori culture at a poignant moment, expressing grief at the decision, then more leniency can be shown. However I doubt that’s the case given the physical actions involved.

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      15 days ago

      They did this right before Parliament was set to vote, and managed to disrupt and delay said vote.

      So yes, it was pretty bad.

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      15 days ago

      She has done this before. She knows Hakas gets attention. So she is aware of want she is doing.

      I agree with you.

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        15 days ago

        She knows Hakas gets attention. So she is aware of want she is doing.

        THATS THE PURPOSE

        the fuck you mean she’s aware of what she was doing? Fucking commie morons

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          15 days ago

          You misunderstood, you wank.

          Begging for attention or doing something that is reasonable can be good. Getting attention by being disruptive and manipulative is the problem. Hence the fact they threw the book at her.

          Knowing is one thing. Context and intent is another.

          I am not a commie. You commie.

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          The Maori party favour theatrics over results, and always have. One of the most notable examples, there was a motion in the house to change the dress code, which the speaker asked if anyone wanted to second. Nobody did.

          The next day, one of their MPs was ejected from the house for not wearing a tie.

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            15 days ago

            You’re speaking of criticism of the party I don’t care.

            This woman did nothing wrong I don’t care if it is theatrical, politics is theatrics.

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              You seem to have a very simplistic view of the world, and don’t seem to be willing to take other points of view on board, so I don’t see much point engaging with you any further.

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                14 days ago

                And you seem to be a moron who thinks theatrics=bad for some unclear and likely absolutely asinine reason.

                This woman did nothing wrong. You’re just a little tool bag