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  • Franklin@lemmy.ca
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    2 days ago

    I mean it is though, at least from a numbers perspective.

    Neither should happen but since i don’t get that choice, I choose the option that saves millions of lives.

    Not to mention the US is now party to the Ukraine genocide too.

    not to mention the real threat to foreign born citizens and LGBTQ people in the United States itself.

    So yes Biden is better even if we are dealing with shades of black

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      This is also false. Biden drastically upped the military aid to Israel after Trump left office.

      The US democrats are a vicious, genocidal party.

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        Its also one we have a better chance to influence. What serious organization for progressives is there?

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          Its also one we have a better chance to influence.

          What fucking garbage. democrats only listen to republicans and netanyahu.

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          It’s okay, we got it. You supported genocide and now you are trying to justify it so you can sleep at night.

          The only true unserious people here are those who defend a genocidal monster even when the monster literally confessed to be one.

          Have a shower.

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          You had a zero percent chance of influencing the Democrats, as evidenced by over a year of complete failure to do so. So no, you didn’t have a better chance to influence them

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            What serious organization for progressives is there?

            If you don’t have an answer for this you are just trolling and not serious about any matter.

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              Democrats are retaliating against David Hogg as a direct result of his serious organization to primary shitlibs.

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              You can’t answer it either, lol, that’s why you’ve been reduced to pretending you can influence the Dems when you’ve conclusively demonstrated that you can’t.

              But that makes sense, given that you admitted to being a troll.

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                You can’t answer it either, lol, that’s why you’ve been reduced to pretending you can influence the Dems when you’ve conclusively demonstrated that you can’t.

                I did answer it and you are making fun of my answer right there. Fair enough, but I have asked you what your ideas are, and all you can say is to twiddle your thumbs.

                Voting dem and making it more progressive is an actionable item. What is your alternative that is so much better?

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                  I did answer it and you are making fun of my answer right there

                  Oh? What is this “serious organization for progressives”?

                  Voting dem and making it more progressive is an actionable item. What is your alternative that is so much better?

                  LOL! You were talking about the Democrats as a “serious organization for progressives”! BAHAHAHA. OK. Then I’ll propose the The Alliance of Magicians - there are more serious answer than yours after all.

                  Voting dem and making it more progressive is an actionable item.

                  Picking your nose and eating it is also an actionable item, and it accomplishes just as much. More even, in that you’re not lying to yourself that you’re actually doing anything.

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                    What is this “serious organization for progressives”?

                    As serious as we have in the US. Do we have any DSA in congress? State? Local? So tell me where is our political organization?

                    Picking your nose and eating it is also an actionable item, and it accomplishes just as much. More even, in that you’re not lying to yourself that you’re actually doing anything.

                    So what is your proposed action items? You use a lot of words to no say anything useful. Unless you are trolling.

                    *Psst that italics above is me being serious. What is your position? I am curious if you have anything worth understanding. *

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          Its also one we have a better chance to influence.

          Lol. LMAO, even. We can’t get them to lift a finger against fascism, dude

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              So far Trump has proven easier to influence against Israel just because of how petty he is.

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      I mean it is though, at least from a numbers perspective.

      And which numbers are those? Oh, you meant vibes.

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      Okay, but then if we point our finger at your face and call you a genocide supporter, you shut up and take it right?! Right?

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        no i wouldn’t because i don’t support it and your inability to see shades of gray will paint darker and darker paths

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          When people start talking about “shades of gray” with regards to genocide, they 100% support genocide

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            and your abstinence vote 200% supports genocide, you not only gave your vote away to trump, but you actively sabotaged the dems chances

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              You have no idea how I voted, or if I live in a swing state, or if I’m even eligible to vote, so shut your presumptuous mouth. More to the point, only a BlueMaga lunatic could try to claim that not voting for genocide supports genocide twice as much as voting for genocide. Like, you don’t actually believe in anything, not even the meaning of words; you’ll just say whatever you can to confuse and antagonize.

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                You have no idea how I voted, or if I live in a swing state, or if I’m even eligible to vote, so shut your presumptuous mouth.

                centrists don’t care how you vote. If you’re to their left on the only issue any of them care about, everything is your fault.

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                I refuse to believe these people are real and in good faith. One of the two thing must be wrong. You can not be this stupid.

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          Ahahah sure brother sure. Keep saying this to yourself.

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      You did not have to preface it with pretending to save anyone. You simply care only about yourself and you do not care about anyone else.

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      Except now Trump is starting to play hardball with Netanyahu, and is distinctly unhappy with the the U.S. taking so much flak while being treated as a money fountain.

      There is a much more real world where Trump gets sick of Bibi and pulls his support than Harris pulling support from Israel. A fully isolationist U.S. is better for Palestine.