Satellite imagery taken after the US strike on Iran’s Fordow site showed smoke rising from the fuel enrichment plant. US President Donald Trump claimed key Iranian nuclear sites had been “obliterated,” while Iran claimed it had removed nuclear material from the sites before the strikes.
The United states is a terrorist country.
The administration running the country are terrorists who target people, domestic and foreign. Please don’t blame the people.
Saying “The United States is a terrorist country” is exactly not blaming the working class people. The state itself is run by and operated by fascist terrorists.
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I hope you don’t think it’s just the current administration. I don’t blame the majority of the populace (in the same way I don’t blame the average Israeli or Russian for example), but as a political entity this is nothing new for the USA.
Edit: or rather, from the outside looking in, this doesn’t feel particularly off brand
“The administration” is (usually!) used to refer to the monolithic entity that continues without interruption (office of the prez, congress etc), “this administration” is used to refer to the specific current government/clarify in cases of ambiguity. Weird quirks of american english, what fun…
(Not disagreeing to be clear. Although this is a bit more transparently “dancing to the tune of the puppet master” than most of the US’s other forays into the mid. east, I must say.)
Isn’t that what the US constantly does other countries?
You kinda have to, as it is a democracy, at least on paper…
I’m an American and I hate to break this to you but the people elected this clown. That’s how it works here. You didn’t vote for him? Okay. But until you’re doing absolutely everything you can to prevent people like him being elected, you don’t get to just shrug off responsibility. I know exactly two people who are doing everything they can, and neither of them is me.
It’s a tough one. Even the people who voted for him are mainly guilty of being gullible. Noone is born maga. They get indoctrinated. The gullible believe it, the rest make up all the stories about family political arguments at holiday dinners…
And Trump is that way because he’s an unintelligent nepobaby. We have to draw a line somewhere.
That’s fairly true of everyone and everything. We are born into a culture and it influences us greatly. I don’t think adults get any kind of a pass because of that. Certainly Americans of voting age have options about what to think and believe, regardless of where they start out.
That’s basically victim blaming. You are implying they have a choice to be less gullible? And yeah, it is a large group, the size of it doesn’t really matter. The powers that be are taking advantage of the masses for thier own purposes. And they know they are doing it.
As an outsider, I don’t blame the people who voted for him the first time but the second time? Nope. People had a choice to be less gullible because there was evidence that he is not fit to lead: felony charges, nepotism, incompetence, derangement etc.
It’s cognitive dissonance from the top down.
That’s not how gullible works. You don’t have a choice. Evidence doesn’t matter if you are convinced it is fake news. And yes, I have met people who really believed all of that was fake news.
I’m saying they are adults and they have some responsibilities. I have lived in a place where thought options were actively suppressed, and I know how much freedom and information access Americans have. It’s true there is abuse and manipulation and lying out there. But no, I am not comfortable calling MAGAts victims and blaming someone else for how they vote. They are indeed getting fooled, but let’s be real: it’s a “fool me twice” situation in Trump’s second term.
But look at the data. Forvthe most part it is the red states he is hurting the most. They litterally are the victums. Doesn’t stop me from hating them, but I know the blame doesn’t really belong on them. The people who deserve the blame just want us to blame them.
This orange maniac and his entourage could only get this far because of a good portion of “the people”.
The funny thing is that no other country’s citizens get that benefit.
Israel? Evil for slaughtering palestinians Russia? Evil for the war on ukraine
The united states voted trump in, sure some were opposed, but the country chose the administration. Americans should be internationally reviled, we have committed an atrocity via democracy.
What are you talking about? I have yet to see someone mean “working class Jews” when saying “fuck Israel.”
Nation states, all of them, even the recently fake ones like Israel, are run by evil people.
You should look closer, for example at the responses to iran bombing israel, “fafo” and the like are the most common, clearly blaming the citizens who are lamenting in the videos with the government’s actions.
To be clear I’m on the side of reduced suffering for all people, and really only advocating for my country (the US) to take responsibility for the suffering we inflict.
All civilians have a right to live free, happy lives
It’s the structures that keep putting people in power that are to blame
Since 1898.
What an odd choice… I know you’re referring to the USS Maine and invasion of Cuba, but that was not the start.
America is the model the Nazis looked up to.
I’ve heard that before too but if you are going to try and convince anyone an actual source will help.
Those neat little slider things that do a great job of showing before and after typically work better when the images are aligned.
Also, having the handle on the middle of the picture instead of underneath is awful on mobile where you can’t see anything because of your own finger.
Grab it with your finger and then move your finger down, you can then swipe left and right without blocking it
There’s a region around the handle where you can grab it to slide left-right but also be scrolling the page up and down, defeating the attempt to move the finger out of the way.
The first time I tried it I kept hitting that region, but I see now that with a bit more precision you can avoid the up-down segment.
Isn’t this a CIA website
I think they lost funding from USAID, so I don’t know what it is now.
I thought we needed to use nukes to penetrate their nuclear sites. Either that was a lie or these attacks did not do what Trump is saying it did.
The US used 14 of their largest bunker busters (GBU-57) at the Fordow facility. That’s as close as you can get to nuclear without actual nukes. Source: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/22/how-effective-was-the-us-attack-on-irans-nuclear-sites-a-visual-guide
Bunker busters only have about 2300kg of payload, the rest of the weight is the penetrator body.
The bombs are rated at destroying a 20m radius.
There is some evidence that these penetrators can be guided away from targets by clever architecture. (A reinforced diamond cross-swcrioned concrete beam for instance can guide the penetrator away from its target)
Long story short we don’t know if these did anything.
Here is the presentation that talks about it https://youtu.be/TriASB-F5UY
Bunker busters only have about 2kg of payload,
Nope. Please note: when an American writes 2.082 lb, he’s not meaning 2 pounds and tidbits. He’s meaning 2000 pounds. AFX and PBXN are not glitter, they’re explosives. :)
Filling AFX-757/PBXN-114
Filling weight 4,590 / 752 lb (2,082 / 341 kg)
Yep I meant 2000kg apparently. Thanks for the correction
The landslides at Fordow look extensive. The whole mountain must have shaken.Edit: Maybe what I’m seeing is just shadows rather than new debris at the bottoms of some slopes.
Landslides? Wtf?
I thought I could see piles of debris at the bottoms of some slopes in the after pictures which weren’t there in the before pictures, but now that I’m looking at them again, I’m no longer sure that what I’m seeing isn’t just a difference in the shadows. (Presumably the pictures were taken at different times of the day.) I’m going to edit my original statement.
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