I feel like maybe around 2012 the whole concept of eras died.
Like I can clearly visualize items/people/media from the 60s/70s/80s/90s/00’s, but everything is homogenized now and there’s really no “style of the time” either. I think everything from 2013+ will just be remembered as a malaise era, if anything. Maybe the style of the 2050’s will be post cyberpunk apocalyptic? I have no idea.
pre-2020 and post-2020 definitely feels like a different era.
(The pandemic and the global shift towards being more authoritarian)
Yeah I’d almost say the 2020s are the best defined era, everything literally changed overnight.
No, not at all. It’s just easier to draw lines on where things start and stop once they change, so you may not feel like you’re “in” an era.
We’re in the era of misinformation.
Fascism sure draws a line in the sand.
No, you’re just used to things that are going on now so you don’t see how it’ll look in 20 years. I remember seeing people saying similar things back in, like, 2009
But 2009 is around where the plateau started, I feel.
Definitely not. I am playing timeguesser and there is distinct change pre 2020 and post 2020
Ah well I guess we will just be known as the ai slop and facism age that welcomed the downfall of civilization then.
I’d call this the “late stage capitalism era”.
Nothing ever unfolded neatly by the decade, but a themepark version could be compiled after the fact. It’s harder when you can’t even talk about “the 00s” gracefully, though. How do you say that?
I’m pretty sure this is a Randall Monroe observation that I’m just repeating. Relevant XKCD, from 2017.
It’s harder when you can’t even talk about “the 00s” gracefully, though. How do you say that?
The aughts/oughts/noughts/noughties, depending on where you’re from.
Yeah, and none of them have really fully caught on. In real life I have to say “two-thousands” to definitely be understood, and even then people misread it as the century sometimes and are confused.
In the age of broadcast media, that is of TV, newspaper, etc., there is a common perspective and culture being set. Now we’re in the “feed” age. There is greater variety and speed.
Stylistically, I’d give the 2010s to hipsters. Damn I do not miss skinny jeans.
Item and sociologically? The smartphone is now ubiquitous.
Sadly, I think the late 10s + a bit will be known as the trump/covid era. (Or, if things get much worse, the beginning of the end.)
It’s the death of the macro culture. All the styles from all the previous eras now coexist and are very much in depending on what sub culture you belong too. Like if you are the edgy kind of teen right now you are wearing y2k style clothing, but if you are more of a normie you wear more classic street wear. If you’re a fashion forward guy in his late 20’s or early 30’s, 40’s to 60’s inspired menswear is the thing to wear. And so on.
Maybe, but if it is people will still choose arbitrary boundaries like decades to create categories around even if they aren’t bound under some specific properties or common experience, we’re social animals and prefer inclusion even if it’s just for fun. Regional dialects and accents are diminishing, but there are still linguistic changes happening across large geographical regions for example.
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I think eras are less obvious when you’re living through them
I dunno. The 80s had a very particular vibe. When the 90s came along, it just felt different, even as I lived through it.
I think the 2000’s didn’t feel that much different than that 2010’s.
But yeah maybe it’s recency bias.
When the 90s came along, it just felt different
Yeah, that’s their point.
I wasn’t replying to OP though. I was replying to someone saying that living through an era makes it harder to discern the changes. I didn’t really agree with that because the 90s felt different from the 80s, even as I lived through them.
But you didn’t know that until it changed to the 90s
Yes, but I felt I was living through a different era. My point was that recently it hasn’t felt that way. Maybe not in 20 years.
The 2000s were very different to the 2010s which were different to the 2020s for me.
2000s, internet (mostly) without facebook. Myspace, bebo, internet forums, MSN messenger.
2010s - Facebook, widespread internet use among parents and grandparents.
2020s - huge work culture shift. Huge political culture shift.
You don’t know what you got till it’s gone…
In the late 1970’s bell bottoms went out of style.
In the 1990’s a different style of bell-bottoms became fashionable again for women in particular.
In the 1990’s a popular look was the giant baggy jeans like JNCOs, which were technically a type of “bell-bottom.”
In the 2020’s, big giant baggy jeans like JNCOs are back in style again.
Further, did everyone forget the entire scene kid/emo kid styles of the early 2000’s because that style was very unique and I don’t see anyone who looks like this these days.
Haircuts like this were the thing in the early 2000’s for women and men until about 2010ish when everyone put their three wolf t-shirts up in the closet and cringed at why they thought being ironic cringe was so great.
Both the 1980’s and early 2000’s were “skinny jeans” eras.
Just like how the broccoli headed boys are a thing for the 2020’s.
And even the broccoli head boys are a natural re-occurence of the permed haircuts in the 1980’s
I can think of plenty more examples but these are just a few.
Scene girls were my favorite.
Just had to keep them away from razor blades.
Further, did everyone forget the entire scene kid/emo kid styles of the early 2000’s because that style was very unique and I don’t see anyone who looks like this these days
Oh emo’s gonna come back someday. And along with it, I fully expect these to comeback to.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cd/Trosor-bakifrån.png
Very astute and the whale tails themselves were a consequence of the low rise jeans era for women where now we are in a high waist jeans era for women.
Low rise jeans are making a comeback, I bought a couple pair recently because I prefer the low vs high rise, I hate high rise so much. They are definitely not the ultra low rise of my youth, but I wouldn’t be surprised if this style also comes back eventually.
The early 2000’s style you like is still very much alive… In the furry community.
“Under this fursuit, I have an amazing haircut.”
Chances are equally good their fursuit character will look like a 90s/2000s kid, too lol
But actually having just spent a whole week with 4 suiters with hella good hair: I have no idea how they do it. You’re wearing a balaclava and a big foam head for several hours, sweating like crazy, but when you finally pop that shit off, you look like a shampoo model. How?!
How?
Are they actually sweating? There are systems for doing active cooling from fans running off battery power.
https://fursuitsupplies.com/fans
Or liquid cooling, including ice and evaporative cooling?
How a Cooling Vest Invented by a Furry Made Its Way Into the U.S. Military
Playing and performing in a full-body, mascot-like suit is a disciplined endeavor—and not always a comfortable one. Any furry will tell you that it’s hot inside a suit and that problem is compounded when members gather in real life. Fursuit-wearers run a real risk of overheating, especially at sunny outdoor events like meetups and Pride parades.
To increase their in-suit endurance, some furries use cooling vests, much like an athlete might. Specially designed vests can hold packs of fluids that remain at steady, low temperatures against wearers’ bodies—a godsend for keeping body heat at bay when you’re wearing fur head to toe.
Hmm. Also, while I’m no expert, my understanding is that animals that are in a cold climate, tend to have underfur to reduce convection. Like, dog breeds aimed more at warm climates don’t have that. I bet that one doesn’t need a lot of dense, short fur at the base. Even if there’s long fur, it might not be as insulating as one might expect relative to an animal.
considers
If the fabric isn’t actually visible — and for furred areas, I guess it isn’t, because all someone can see is fur — maybe one could use something like burlap at the base, stuff that has a lot of room for air to flow through.
I dunno what any issues with using carbon fiber are, but my understanding is that it’s pretty thermally-conductive. In some uses, carbon fiber is made into rigid surfaces, is a composite, has resin, but I believe that you can get it as a resin-less fabric.
kagis
https://www.ngfworld.com/en/fiber/high_thermal_conductivity.html
GRANOC high thermal conductive grade is available as Yarn, Fabric, Chopped and Milled fiber.
I mean, if you figure that it’s possible to use a fabric made out of that, that’ll probably conduct a lot of heat away from hot places.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8867053/
According to this, carbon nanotube microfibers have thermal conductivity hundreds of times greater than nylon.
kagis
Apparently you get get fabric made from the stuff — though this example looks to be awfully expensive, so carbon nanontube-based fursuits probably aren’t practical for general use yet:
https://dexmat.com/store/galvorn-carbon-nanotube-fabric/
Galvorn carbon nanotube (CNT) fabric is highly conductive and made from interlocking loops of Galvorn CNT yarn.
Galvorn yarns behave like a textile. You can sew, weave, knit, and even blend it with other textiles to achieve your application goals. You can modify the yarn and/or knit to adjust the suppleness of the fabric.
https://dexmat.com/carbon-nanotube-fiber/
Thermal Conductivity: Galvorn CNT fiber has a thermal conductivity of 450 W/m-K, exceeding copper’s 385 W/m-K. This superior heat dissipation capability is vital for high-performance electronics and power cables, allowing for greater current carrying capacity per unit mass.
https://dexmat.com/industries/e-textiles/
I doubt that people are actually going all the way to carbon nanotube fabric, but if we can get costs down, I imagine that they could.
The best these guys have is a fan you hold that looks like food you shove into the head’s mouth to blow air in your face. Sometimes maybe 120-240mm computer case fans are built into yhe head (none of my friends had these tho).
I have wondered since seeing a Technology Connections video about refrigeration if those heat pump panel things (they’re just a square of some material that gets hot on one side and cold on the other; forgot what they were called) would work well for fursuiting. Turn the inside of the suit into a straight up fridge.
Also alive and well in the rave scene, but we’ve always dressed funny
Edit: also, these communities probably overlap a lot…
These communities probably over lap a lot
Hell yeah they do. I just got back home from a furry con that was basically a 5-day long rave.
Marc Almond?
Yep, Soft Cell.
Good, thanks :)
