If only they were also monsters of incrementing the pcie device id when their chip revision breaks compatibility.
So you don’t spend forever trying to Google on your phone or other laptop that you have to pull and rebuild the latest kernel, without an internet connection, because only that one knows that revision K needs power management set before the link will come up.
The peace treaty was for 10 years.
And they made that treaty so they could partition Poland and invade and brutalize Finland, no other reason.
The secret protocol was very clear.
Interesting parallel:
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/german-soviet-pact
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov–Ribbentrop_Pact?Secret_Protocol
Russians loved the nazis, and agreed to split Europe with them too!
But then again, they’d been genociding jews, Ukrainians and everyone else for centuries by then, I suppose they saw kindred spirits.
I need to explain to people why this is so amazingly stupid:
You are literally giving Europe an excuse to put tariffs on American goods and services, which they want to anyway, to encourage domestic producers.
Also, you’re making it easier for them to buy directly from south Korea, Japan and even China, especially since those countries can’t sell as easily to the US.
For Europe this is an absolute win/win.
But honestly, this sounds like a way for Trump to put pressure on Europe to back off on Ukraine, as he probably thinks the EU is reliant on US LNG, which is kind of isn’t really.
It’s not Bluetooth - it’s WiFi, using a proprietary blob for authentication.
You’ve literally missed my whole point.
Playstation link is this exact same thing, and btw, both controllers are dual-mode bluetooth and “high-speed wireless interface”, which is basically wifi or wifi-direct or some proprietary variant.
My point is, why isn’t it like Playstation link which just presents as HID devices and usb-audio devices, without a driver at all? Same low-latency, they even do LDAC.
if your input is barely too late for one 125Hz poll,
So those polls are generally isochronous to the USB bus transaction state, not based on polling frequency of the CPU, what happens is:
USB interrupt URB comes in to HCI controller,.URB descriptor written to descriptor chain.
Controller adds to descriptor chain, once chain length > WAT (| Timeout), interrupt and start processing incoming URBs.
In interrupt controller, follow chain, push URBs onto usb stack queue, trigger handler tasklet
Stack processes URB, routes to proper class driver
Class driver checks if URB has file handle open (or has open ref from drivers like HID/input).
If so, poll or other input read() returns value.
Now it’s possible there are multi-input poll reads in games, and I’m doing linux of course.
For MSFT it’s URB -> IRP -> WDM filter driver stack -> kernel32/directinput or win32 input stack (WNDPROCs after routing).
In any of these cases, I’m struggling to see how interrupts would come in faster with the same code on PC.
See, the same code probably runs on both MSFT and normal hardware, so it’s going to have the same structure, unless you actually believe a dev team is optimizing input latency that much, that’s often the lowest priority, they’ll optimize video lag more because it’s more noticeable. The engines themselves use DirectInput, and that’s routed through to libinput in WINE, and the same for all devices.
Btw, DirectInput has a device-based interface, so it couldn’t poll like this anyway, basically each controller has its own input queue that is round-robin and pluck stuff out of their input stream when available.
In any case, you’re not getting the latency improvement, both because it’s so different in software and because nothing can appreciate this.
I’m not trying to be extra autistic for no reason, I’ve just had to make these decisions before, and these are how we have to think.
I can respect that, I just think there should be a lot of pressure on MSFT to reprogram firmware to support linux natively.
The kernel has been desperately trying to move away from these 1-off, quirky drivers as they’re impossible to maintain.
Firstly, it’s not a real hub, it’s an emulated hub, and you can do that emulating everything as USB 2.0.
Secondly you can have multiple hid interface endpoints on a single device.
Thirdly, you wouldn’t be polling, these would be hid interrupt urbs, and you can storm them 1 per micropacket if you want, they just show up in the ehci buffers.
Finally, no human is overflowing the hid interface like this, not even 8 of them.
Hid is what should be required.
There are a million standards already here, I’d they really want to they can extend hid or something.
This is just a scrappy proprietary driver for no reason :(
My point is that the PS link doesn’t need a dedicated driver, why does this one?
assume they didn’t want to emulate an eight-port USB hub on the dongle.
https://github.com/abcminiuser/lufa
Literally a kid did this in high school, this is without hardware support, just GPIO, but he also implemented the full stack on avrusbs and cortex-ms, and one thing he emulated was multiple devices on a hub.
Neither is the xbone dongle, as you argued.
The difference is: The dongle uses all the normal standards, and doesn’t need a kernel driver like the msft piece of shit.
It also means Firefox loses another revenue stream (that nobody ever used) keeping it going.
You seem to be having a lot of problems here:
https://direct.playstation.com/en-us/buy-accessories/playstation-link-usb-adapter
Low latency, lossless audio, pretty sure rumble works.
And NO DRIVER outside of the standard USB hid and audio.
How is this hard to understand?
What in the fuck are you even talking about?
PS5 is bluetooth, standard bluetooth, and wired uses both standard HID and standard usb audio, my point is: Why isn’t MSFT?
Also, since you clearly don’t know the first fucking thing you’re talking about:
After 2016, when Bluetooth connectivity was introduced with the second controller revision (model 1708) alongside the Xbox One S, Microsoft rebranded its proprietary connection protocol as “Xbox Wireless”.[10] Xbox Wireless uses the same frequency range as Bluetooth (2.40-2.48 GHz), but has a higher transmit power, improving range and input latency. Starting in 2017, Microsoft began working with third-party manufacturers to produce additional accessories using Xbox Wireless, with the first class being headsets.[11]
With a firmware update that began rolling out in September 2021, controllers with Bluetooth are able to pair with devices using both wireless protocols, allowing those controllers to switch connections by double-tapping the pairing button.[12]
Drivers were released in June 2014 to allow Xbox One controllers to be used over a USB connection on PCs running Windows 7 or later.[69] The Xbox One Wireless Adapter for Windows is a USB dongle that allows up to eight controllers to be used at once wirelessly.[70]
Look at how stupid broken this is! You need drivers to use it over standard USB!
Everything about this design is broken, it should be kicked out of the kernel and MSFT should release firmware that actually implements HID like normal, non-stupid people.
8bitdo has exactly this, same dongle system and pairing and again, it works perfectly without any drivers at all, because they’re not morons.
My ps5 by works perfectly, as did my ps4 pad.
Think the ps3 one was USB, but that’s fine too.
Even the audio works out of the box.
I use my 8bitdo which is great too.
Everyone else can do this correctly, and when someone can’t they should be shamed, like msft.
A bunch, mostly networking but some sriov and arm64 and old mips64 stuff.
Enough to have been on the bad side of one of linus’s rants.
This is shit engineering and msft should be shamed for it.
Because I’ve worked on hardware, and have drivers in the kernel.
It’s trash hardware if you’re duplicating the functionality of something else and not following the standards.
https://www.techspot.com/news/105268-linus-torvalds-fed-up-making-kernel-changes-address.html
Microsoft could do a firmware update to fix their worthless broken shit, Bluetooth is like 20 years old now, you’d think even a company with their heads that far up their asses could get it right by now. For the dongle, have it present hid.
They’re just adding more trash drivers to the kernel we shouldnt need.to throw shit code for their shit drivers into the kernel repo everyone uses.
It’s trash hardware.
Xbone owners should be shaming ms into oblivion for making the kernel have to pollute itself with this garbage.
Note how ps5 controllers need ‘power’ (optional).
Creative labs made shit audio chips, at least post isa, they never figured out pci at all. Haven’t forgiven them for killing aureal either.
Turtle beach was quality, but overpriced and they completely focused on the pro market after a while, ignoring gaming.
Realtek makes garbage, I always bypass it with a good USB DAC (fiio usually) because the mobo manufacturers always route lines so it buzzed when the GPU started using power.
You are right that they killed the market, but only for people who don’t care, and you can pick up a banging used mellanox for cheap that gives you excellent sriov.