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What if that entire “person” was just AI generated, and the “blog” was just fake AI stories?

I don’t live in the future so that I could not tell.

What I can tell is that AI of today smells very much like AI (which is to say, by grossly over-simplifying, that AI ‘creates’ content that is a severely neutered content and that shows) and, seeing how people are asking for more of that shit content, it doesn’t look like they will need to invest that much more to make AI better to make it an economical success. So I doubt it will ever reach a point where we can’t tell teh difference. But if it was to get to that there would still be:

• real people, to meet and talk with and do stuff with.
• a bazillion books published waiting to be read. Printed books I mean, not ebooks as those can too easily be altered (here again, to please the crowd… or maybe one day to be ‘AI-optimized’). There are more books waiting to be read than I would be able to read even if I was to live for a thousand years. So, I don’t need to Web to access fascinating content, I just need (my own or any public) Library. And what about younger people that have not been taught to enjoy reading books and can only consume videos or look at pictures instead? Well, imho the first thing they should do is ask their parents why they failed so badly at giving them such a basic education as enjoying reading. Then, and that’s the good news, it’s never too late to start reading. Those younger people still can decide to switch gear and start opening a book from time to time ;)

So, if that ugly AI-Web was to take over what I call the human-made Web, I would simply quit using the Web.

Exactly like we quit owning (and watching) a TV in the early 00s my spouse and I, when we realized we had had enough of being asked to pay money in order to watch unskipable fucking ads and what we considered always shittier content (read: ‘politically correct’ content a bit like that AI-crap of today, as we both prefer to be challenged by what we watch and what we read, not so much being nursed or feeling validated by it).

With AI, you could generate a lifetime of greedy/evil corporate/marketing-owned web in a matter of hours, and just flood every corner of the internet with it.

They could flood the Web they own with that shit and, imho, that’s 100% what they will do and so will do Hollywood and Netflix (it will be much cheaper/quicker to produce and there will be less risk of getting lynched for offending this or that part of the population). That they will do, I’m willing to bet. But they still won’t be able to flood my part of the Web (I pay for it, I own it, I decide what’s (not) published on it), as well as on many other small parts of the Web owned by other people like me. To get rid of us they first would need to make it illegal (or too costly) for mere individuals like us to own a domain and publish content. If that was to happen (and it could very well) it would take them a lot of work to achieve, and that would give us, the mere people willing to keep our freedom of expression (and willing to remain not-owned in any way) the opportunity to search for some other place… including moving back to analog media and IRL/in-person meetings.

I mean, humanity has shared stories for thousands of years. The Internet? It’s approx 40 years old. So, yeah, we should be able to find some alternatives ways to express ourselves without relying on such a shitty web if things were to become that bad.

Per my point above, you’ll never know what’s human-made in the very near future. At some point, bots with human identities will flood websites, then what?

See what I just said.

Sure, there will most certainly be a web like the one you’re describing and realizing how lazy most people are it will most certainly be a huge hit. But no matter how successful it is it will still be 100% of no interest to me and to people like me. So me and those other people we would focus our time (and money) on a man-made Web without worrying how machines monkey humans. And if one day they make it so that it’s not possible to access any man-made content online, well, we will fall back on IRL-meeting, with real people. Like going to church, or to a book club, go to concerts or make some music in a band, go listen to poetry, go places to play board-games, whatever.

We don’t need our lives to be online at all time. As a matter of fact, we used to not spend it online at all up until very recently ;)

AI generated content, which now includes incredibly convincing videos of people, will grow exponentially over the next weeks, months, and years.

At some point, the majority of the content you see will be fake, and any usefulness or connection to humans will be lost.

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To that end, when will the internet be so untrustworthy, “soulless”, and useless to you that it crosses the tipping point?

Depends what you read. Blogs are still a thing and on many there is not the slightest hint of AI and in some there is even not even a single ad to be seen. It’s still people talking about what they truly care. Not people trying to farm likes or views by spreading some low-effort shit content, be it videos, pictures or text.

The corporate/marketing-owned Web is filled to the brim with utter crap but that’s not new, and it has been so well before AI became a thing. I’ve quit bothering about its existence a decade ago or so. So, I would not even notice it that corporate-owned Web was to suddenly vanish back into the nothingness it never should have left.

But the human-made web is still a thing. It’s just not promoted as much as it once was and certainly it’s not promoted where nowadays crowds gather to get spoon-fed content. Aka, in those handful of places that are all owned by corporations, corporations that don’t want people to go see elsewhere. But corporations not wanting to promote human-made web doesn’t make that human-web go away.

It’s there for anyone to taste and, if they’re willing to, to participate in. But it’s up to those people to move their ass and change their habits. If they don’t do that effort to try to go see elsewhere, well, they’ll the only one losing out on a potentially more interesting (and less faked) content.

It’s out there. One just needs to open the door or jump the fence to get the fuck out of their walled garden and start exploring the World Wide Web.

edit: clarifications.

isn’t that the case for every country to favour national buyers over foreigners? It’s a real question (even though I’m French ;)

I have trouble understanding what people are actually programming if it isn’t their job. Like, you go to your computer and start working on…what?

I’ve written some simple shell scripting to ease repetitive tasks, that’s about it (like play random video/audio files in MPV media player, resize & convert images I post on my website, and so on). Does that count as programing? ;)

If they do that (it’s your hypothesis) it could also be for a similar reason people ask AI to do the thinking and do the writing for them.

I didn’t mean to come off as disagreeing with you

You did not, sorry if I made you think so ;)

My point was that I think there can be such a thing as a “perfect relationship”, as long as we have a realistic idea of what that entails.

The second part of your sentence make it so we can fully agree.

I definitely agree that the idea of a “perfect relationship” that a lot of media tries to sell us is completely unrealistic though.

It’s so toxic. It was already a thing when I was a teen but it was nothing compared to what it has morphed into since the last 20-15 years or so. Today, I see so many young people not just completely lost, they’re afraid to even try to live something, anything. More and more of them are also completely destroyed, crushed by that relentless bombardment of ‘perfection’ everywhere. Our society is killing humanity in its young, what kind of society is OK with doing that?

I’m not that old myself (in my 50s) but I’m old enough to not worry much about the impact of that trend on my own existence but I feel so sorry, and angry, for those younger generations as they have absolutely no idea what have been stolen from them. They have no idea what they’re giving away in exchange of nothing but a mirage on a shiny screen.

A bit like with porn becoming the new normal way young people experiment with sex. I mean, I’m fine with people fapping at whatever they fancy but what’s going on is more than just fapping. It’s an over consumption of… human meat. And that over-consumption is depriving them of something much more precious. Making love was never about fucking someone or fantasizing about such or such anatomical detail or some fetish or another. Here again, I’m sad for them because they’re the ones losing out. Badly… I was tempted to say “they’re the one being screwed” but I thought maybe that would not be OK :p

Your english is great btw :)

Thx :)

As long as we accept that no realistic relationship is completely without conflict, I would say that a “perfect relationship” involves being able to work through the issues that inevitably show up. It’s something you build together, not something you just have.

Isn’t it what I just wrote? Real question (my English is lacking so…)

Not sure to understand the question? How could you not know?

If you’re thinking about finding the ‘perfect’ partner, forget about that. It’s a lie. It’s something fabricated to sell ads, page views and subscriptions to shitty services. Nobody (including you and me), nobody is perfect. So, no relationship can be perfect.

My spouse and I have been together for 25+ years and counting. It was quite obvious very early on we’re fitting together nicely but that was far from being a perfect match and we had a few rough times and, all those years later, we can still have. But we’ve quickly realized how lucky we were to have found each other, and we valued that enough to get over any difficulty or hardship. And we still do.

So, to me that’s a ‘right relationship’, just not ‘the’ right one as we could as easily have both been as happy with someone else if things had been different ;)

None. It’s in my messenger bag, or sometimes in a small belt bag of some sort. Why? Because I don’t need constantly access my phone as I seldom use it ;)

Thinking about it, I tend to keep nothing in my pockets.

You need to also use a standing mat to avoid your your feet/legs getting tired too quickly while you’re standing. Get a good one, not some cheap knock-off.

Also, like already suggested: take as many walks as you can. Not just standing still. Walking will help you heart make the bllod flow better. Plus, it’s great for the health in general, and for the head ;)