You’ve made a potential error in underestimating just how horrible some peoples’ lives are and how filled with hatred they are over that fact.

What fact? People’s lives are horrible BECAUSE of ICE. They’re so horrible that I considered that nobody would be “on the fence” because either you drank the Fear-Of-Crime Kool-Aid or you are horrified at what ICE agents are doing to children and poor people. The entire reason there are people who don’t think ICE needs to be abolished right now is because Fox News and other right-wing grifters have pumped out propaganda making it look like there is a “crime wave” like it’s the Reagan Era, and people living in the Suburbs not knowing what the outside world is like. Not only do they choose to portray a crime wave, they have to do it, because otherwise people would see their president as the power-hungry maniac he is rather than a savior of order. No riot is actually making people miserable, only the police-reported, sensationalist coverage of protests.

This is really what drives so much of politics in the world–disgruntled people with no future who choose to hate others who have nothing to do with it.

That’s just the American Suburbs. I hope American states can secede to change this. Meanwhile, in Vietnam, there is a high-speed rail being built. This is not driven by disgruntled people, people with no future, or people who choose not to hate others who have nothing to do with it. Neither is Iran defending itself from an imperialist regime, nor Australia having their left-wing Labour party completely outdo the right-wing Liberal party. America is the villain here.

All of a sudden, so many things are “not protected speech”. I find it tempting to be as ignorant as a Republican, but I’d certainly be caught off guard in that case.

PR for who? Who is on the fence about ICE?

I mean, Lemmy itself was created by Communists if I’m correct

That sounds like something Heinlein would write during his earlier days. I completely agree with both the argument and reasoning, even tho he turned anti-Communist and insane before he wrote that.

I was always scared of becoming homeless when I was a kid. It motivates people to work hard: the beatings will continue until morale improves.

There’s no logical objection for it, but it goes against the interests of landlords, real estate managers, and other people who see housing as a financial investment rather than a human right. If we want to give people homes to live in that they will not be deprived of, we first have to bring out the guillotine.