I guess I committed a crime. Sorry, I never meant to say all of them are worth the same. Otherwise all those targeted groups could go and invade a country and call it their own, and make atomic bombs and attack anyone they don’t like.

That would destroy civilization. Only a few chosen people should have their excuse to do that legally protected.

Sarcasm warning.

Is it illegal to question the murder of gays, Russians, etc or just the jews?

I always wondered that.

Problem being I don’t know how that would work, especially since banks would probably hate freedom respecting systems.

Yeah, that’s the thing, I don’t think it’s possible without becoming as evil as the alternative. If it is, I’m all for it. But my freedom comes first.

Australia will lose cash over time. All first world countries will. You can’t stop “progress”. It’s just a matter of how long, and then how long until you are not a citizen without Google play on your phone. Or considered disabled, which is already happening.

I’ll be honest that I don’t know how it works because I never cared. What I know is that it doesn’t work with root or most roms, it removes my freedom because my phone can’t be “trusted”, so any other issue it has is not important. Even if it was more private than cash. It needs Google to “trust” my phone and I really, seriously trust a thief more than Google.

Cards are another massive issue but it’s a problem so widespread that there’s nothing I can do about it anymore. I use cash whenever I can but I know humanity and it will die soon because people don’t care.

And later tap to pay will be mandatory and if you don’t have spyware (Google play, apple) on your phone you can’t buy anything anymore.

The present is bad, the future is horrible.

Not that I own all these, but what do they have to do with my phone? I don’t see any connection to those except where I wanted to create it.

I’m not stopping you from wanting your apple/Linux phone. Or anyone from making it. I’m just saying that I believe that my interests are similar to a lot of people who care about open source, and therefore:

-The people who care about open source will not support that enough to be successfull (currently, as more people keep saying stuff like “I just can’t live without this convenience” it might change).

-The people who care about those conveniences that much don’t care about open source, privacy or freedom, and they won’t support it either. They will only support it if it’s even more convenient and lazy, and for that the apple/Linux phone would have to be even more evil than the current options.

So in my mind it’s a dead end, and I personally I don’t support it. But go for it! And I do believe that over times those conveniences will be seen more and more as needs and soon we might have a Linux phone I wouldn’t want to use. But good for those who want it.

BUT just to be clear, I desperately want a Linux phone, yes! But my concerns are stuff like: does the hardware work well? does the camera work well? Does the GPS work well? What about signal with the telecoms? Battery lifre? You know, mostly hardware related with the software.

Tap to pay, car play, siri, all those things can be on the list, but way down on the bottom.

That’s a bit extreme. Some of those are not linked.

Yes you can not have cloud pictures without having to trust the server. But you can have an open source, inspected system that uses gps without any related data being shared. Gps doesn’t send data, it’s the system choice to create a way to send it to someone. You can have a Linux phone that doesn’t chose to do that.

You can have convenience with privacy, but the companies offering those services don’t want that, nor do the consumers care.

And those consumers would not care about a Linux phone.

It’s not the existence of the option. It’s the requirements it brings.

Which companies will this phone need to shake hands for that to work? What price will they have to pay? What risks does it bring to my privacy on that phone? What requirements will they have? Banks, car companies, credit card companies etc are not the kind of company I want to see involved in my system.

If magically you can have those agreements without any risk for me, then I’m happy with it. But it’s impossible. You want a different product than mine with those needs.

I need freedom and trust in my system and I would like convenience. You need convenience and would like freedom and trust. It’s a matter of how much you have to sacrifice of one to get the other. It’s a personal choice.

For example, even before Android shitified itself, tap to pay wouldn’t work if you have root or most custom roms. Is it the price I have to pay for your option? Limit how I can use my phone so that Banks can trust it? Imagine if I couldn’t use sudo on Linux because someone wants to bend over to a bank?

I would look for a different system.

Or, touch wood, using cash!

Imagine the horror. Something that can even work if there’s no internet at all, like the cave man used…

Or, sarcasm aside, besides working properly offline, it doesn’t give money to evil companies like visa. Then with the phone there’s yet another evil company profiting from you. And giving people the idea that it’s impossible to live without doing so.

It’s a little extra convenience for those who like it, sure, but it’s crazy to say they can’t live without it.

That’s the problem. The things you think “people” need is what they already have and it can’t be different. “I want to trust everything on a company online but I want my data to be private and safe.” You have to choose. For those people who think they “need” what you say, they already have apple and Google.

Just like Linux was never meant to replicate windows “features” like cortana and others, and it didn’t, and it works for those who don’t want those things which is why they want Linux.

The requirements for Linux to have your “needs” would make me not want it, and then it would just be a poor version of apple without the trillions of dollars that come with it. It wouldn’t please either side.

The things open source people care will always be a minority. It’s sad but it’s the reality.

Nope, it’s because of the “common sense” as in “everyone who doesn’t know what I know is stupid”.

From talking to other people, I believe my knowledge of colors and light is considerably higher than normal, but I would never think someone lacks “common sense” (which reads to me that they are stupid) for not knowing these things.

In fact when I show people how some colors are not visibly reflected on different wavelengths, and they seem interested, it makes me happy. I don’t expect them to know that, but the fact that they are curious and interested shows they are willing to learn, and that is nice.

But comments like these makes people not want to learn.

Again, I gave the impression I’m against it.

They will find the excuse to attack and murder whoever they want, as you said. And this time this will be the excuse they will use. And praise Yemen for standing up against them despite what will come.

Sorry, that was not against it. The world needs brave countries like Yemen to show that there is resistance. I wish I could do something even though I knew it would be suicide. But that’s what I was saying, it’s suicide. Martyrdom.

But on the hitler part, if they controlled all the super powers, the global media and had massively stronger military power with atomic bombs, there would have been no other side. They would have won and we would be talking about the holocaust of the poor arian race, which justified everything they did. To make it clear, they would have taken the place of the israel.

Because in response of this, israel will probably kill 1000 in Yemen, and Palestine as well, just to remind them.

I admire Yemen, but attacking the group that controls all the most powerful countries and weapons is suicide. As they said many times, they will kill 1000 palestinians for every israeli killed, or hurt, or annoyed, or just because a zionist hit his toe in the bed this morning.