Humans and human ancestors have also been consuming large quantities of plants for far earlier than that. Here’s another paper looking 780,000 years ago finding a wide amount of plants consumed

we demonstrate that a wide variety of plants were processed by Middle Pleistocene hominins at the site of Gesher Benot Ya’aqov in Israel (33° 00’ 30” N, 35° 37’ 30” E), at least 780,000 y ago. These results further indicate the advanced cognitive abilities of our early ancestors, including their ability to collect plants from varying distances and from a wide range of habitats and to mechanically process them using percussive tools.

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2418661121

I am not saying that hunting didn’t happen (it definitely did). I am just saying that more recent research is painting a very different picture of the level of consumption of it

More modern research does not suggest this made up most of the consumption for humans even before agriculture. For instance,

Our results unequivocally demonstrate a substantial plant-based component in the diets of these hunter-gatherers. This distinct dietary pattern challenges the prevailing notion of high reliance on animal proteins among pre-agricultural human groups

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-024-02382-z

Does the Lemmy post title not have “in mice” in it for you? I added it to the title of the post to clarify this. It should show as

Red meat wreaks havoc on gut and drives inflammatory bowel disease (IBD) in study on mice

Whereas the original title of the article was:

Red meat wreaks havoc on gut and drives inflammatory bowel disease

My point is that it was way more rare than what people’s diets look like today. Not zero but not dominant. Wide reliance on plants is even true before modern agriculture. For example:

Here we present the isotopic evidence of pronounced plant reliance among Late Stone Age hunter-gatherers from North Africa (15,000–13,000 cal BP), predating the advent of agriculture by several millennia

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-024-02382-z

Humans historically, also didn’t eat much meat up until very recently. More recent research suggests our ancient human ancestors were eating far more plants than meat

EDIT: For example:

Here we present the isotopic evidence of pronounced plant reliance among Late Stone Age hunter-gatherers from North Africa (15,000–13,000 cal BP), predating the advent of agriculture by several millennia

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-024-02382-z

The council (me) has decided that I too actually wanted to see bean memes again. It has bean started again

https://lemmy.ml/post/34748813

Now you’re getting it!

Be the change you want to see in the world and post beans

I don’t think that one is implied to be causational. I think this is saying that these communities are even more likely to feel the negative effects because of that regardless of the exact reason why this happens to be the case

Animal feeding operation (AFO) includes more than just factory farms, but most animal agriculture happens in factory farms in both the US and globally. At least in terms of number of farm animals

Concentrated animal feeding operation (CAFO) is usually the sanitized term for factory farm though it may exclude some places you’d might call factory farms because it’s a term primarily based around the number of farm animals per location

Linked article in the body suggests that likely wouldn’t have made a difference anyway

The scrapers ignored common web protocols that site owners use to block automated scraping, including “robots.txt” which is a text file placed on websites aimed at preventing the indexing of context

Maybe worth reminding her of that option too. A lot of people do things for culture because they feel like they are required or supposed to, even if they might feel better not taking part in certain practices

If I were to hazard a guess, I’m going to imagine that this won’t completely solve the feeling bad/guilty about it aspects. Another option to consider: can always just have something else

It’s very much human to have those feelings and healthy in the short term to have those feelings, but we should generally try to listen to them or they eat away us. Or in the really cheesy way of putting it “listen to your heart”

But EVs don’t even need more than one gear ratio because of how the motors…

What’s that? Musk designed it? Ah sounds about right, carry on