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    3 days ago

    Or, as the other (better informed) guy said. This resolution equates tearing down soviet monuments to be Nazism.

    That by extension means it equates Ukraine (the country partially occupied and fraudulently annexed by Russia) with Nazism. Countries which respect Ukraine’s sovereignty (and have enough skepticism of Russia to read more than the title) wouldn’t want to vote against (because of the title) but also wouldn’t want to vote in favor.

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      3 days ago

      Tearing down monuments to WW2 veterans who fought against the Nazis certainly suggests a certain affinity with the Nazis.

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          Incorrect, and it’s people saying things like this that is why we should combat efforts to rewrite history.

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              12 hours ago

              And Poland and Germany divided Czechoslovakia between them. Were they allies too?

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                  11 hours ago

                  it was far less territory

                  Lol. Desperately clutching at anything to justify the double standard.

                  But even if what you said was true, the USSR invaded a Nazi ally, so what’s the problem?

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                    Didn’t Stalin say that quantity has a quality of its own?

                    Oh yeah, Stalin got backstabbed by Hitler—who would have thunk it? (save maybe some advisors who were sent to the gulag)—with terrible consequences for the USSR. Militarily-speaking, Germany has been a challenge for Russia. Russia should have prepared for it, but Stalin fucked around being a dictator, letting ideology and his personality cult get in the way to rising to the challenge, and the consequences were probably millions of more dead Soviets than otherwise.

                    After a hard fight in this war of annihilation, with possibly indispensable help from the evil (relatively) liberal West, the big 4 defeated Hitler and carved up Germany, resulting in unprecedented freedom and prosperity for West Germany, and the USSR didn’t do too bad either, but the US did even better.

                    What I find annoying is that Soviet and/or tankie apologists act like 1939 and 1940 didn’t happen. It’s carved into their memorials—1941 - 1945 instead of 1939 - 1945. It’s as if they are trying to deny historical facts.

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        It doesn’t. The enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend. Monuments that glorify Soviets might be torn down for a plethora of reasons that don’t have anything to do with nazism and have a lot to do with Soviet atrocities.

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          I’m comfortable to say people tearing down memorials to the soldiers who faught against the Nazis to replace them with memorials to the people who fought for the Nazis makes you a Nazi.

          Feddit continuing not to beat the charges.

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            2 days ago

            Keep spreading Russian propaganda if it makes you happy. Still doesn’t mean you’re right.

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                “People want to get rid of statues that once symbolised liberation but now are associated with oppression. They must be Nazis and everybody who disagrees with that must be a fake news spreading fascist!”

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                  1 day ago

                  When you’re trying to claim that statues that symbolise liberation from the Nazis represent oppression, you’re a Nazi.

                  And you were the one screaming the BlueMAGA equivalent of “fake news”