• Aganim@lemmy.world
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    22 hours ago

    Well, there goes my appetite, this Dutch guy hates herring. Can’t stand the smell, taste or texture. 🤢

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    23 hours ago

    You’d only get second-hand smoking if you spent every day in your life in the tourist hellhole of central Amsterdam. Try going to Germany instead, everything and everyone reeks of cigarettes and they even have vending machines for them in plain sight in amusement parks.

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      I swear, smokers in Europe have atrocious social graces with no concept of personal space. Even at the busiest and most cramped cafes, they will light up at the table with you or standing next to a doorway, and then act like you’re the problem if you’re annoyed or upset about second hand smoke. Beer gardens and outdoor seating almost universally include a carcinogenic haze, it just ruins the meal/drink imo to be tasting the air between bites

      At least in America the social stigma is strong enough where they scurry off to their opium den smoking area and get their nicotine hit with their brethren. Go in peace friend, you do you over there to y’all’s lungs

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        Sweet summer child, you should have seen Europe at the turn of the century.

        I’ve seen doctors pulling out a cigarette and start smoking in the middle of a ward. Any place you’d go at night - a cafe, a bar, a pub, a disco - and you’d nearly vomit at how your clothes smelled the next day.

        Everything and everyone smelled like tobacco.

        Nowadays? It’s paradise I tell you.

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          The US used to be a lot like this too. Food service workers smoking cigarettes while they carve meat and then throwing the butts in the drain. Smoking sections in restaurants being most of the restaurant while the non-smoking section was a corner of the restaurant where they just sat you between all the smokers like the smoke was gonna hit an invisible barrier. Everybody was smoking all the time. My grandma once served my grandfather his breakfast in an ash tray because she was so sick of him putting out his ciagrettes on the plates.

          It wasn’t until around the 2000s that things really shifted in the US, and now the thought of a smoking vs non-smoking section of anything other than a little room at the airport where the smokers all squash into to smoke is unheard of.

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      21 hours ago

      While I am regularly annoyed at smokers in restaurants, at bus stops/train stations and in pedestrian zones, you haven’t felt “everything” until you go to e.g. Turkey (as much as I love the country)

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      21 hours ago

      can confirm (germany), it’s gotten better but in my childhood there was literally just a cig vending machine outside my block, like 30-40m away from a playground

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        The US used to have those vending machines in bars and some restaurants too, up until the 90s. The smoking section of restaurants was mostly an invisible line that cut the room in half, so you could have a smoking table literally right next to a non-smoking one.

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          Fun fact, this is how I got about half of my cigarettes in high school. The local dive had the machine by the back entrance which was around the corner from the host stand. You could easily use it without being seen. And on the rare occasion someone did see you and said something all you had to do is tell them to mind their own business and leave because the entire process took about 30s.

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    And it’s damn tasty. herring and raw onions are amazing. That sad pickle slice can screw off though.

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        It’s very soft, you eat it with the skin. The Dutch version of salted herring is the nicest one (compared to Nordic and Baltic versions), it’s quite mild flavoured and has a great raw-fish kind of texture. Ones which are pickled longer are still nice but can get a bit floury sometimes.

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            In my opinion yeah, the texture is better, smoother, when they’re freshly brined as opposed to the more crumbly/flaky texture when they’re marinaded in vinegar. But Danish picked herring is also delicious.

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          do you also do the varieties that the swedes do? that’s my favourite part, getting a whole bunch of differently spiced ones. probably need to try the dutch version.

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          I guess you’re Dutch, you might not know that in English ‘pickled’ doesn’t only refer to things in vinegar, but it can also refer to things put in salt brine for a few days like maatjes.

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        22 hours ago

        It would have to be cooked to be in a tin. You can get jarred pickled herring but it’s nowhere near as good as a fresh salted herring.

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          I tried the tinned stuff once and it was gaggingly bad. Not the nordic kind that will literally cause you and everyone in the room to vomit - but it really… was not good. And I’m adventurous when it comes to food. Plus the fish was cut across, not in fillets, so it had the spinal bones which were difficult to eat around.

          Obviously that tin sucked. I’m just wondering if there is another kind I should look for specifically. That is until I get to visit Denmark.

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            Yeah. I’ve had a wide variation of them, some are awful like the ones you had, some are just okay. If they are shelf stable they’re usually never good, but you can get vinegar pickled ones in refrigerated jars or pouches which can sometimes be a bit nice if you’re into that. I would definitely recommend them over tinned ones. But none of them come anywhere close to the real delicacy that’s in that photo.

            Even though they’re “pickled” these don’t really keep so you don’t really see them overseas much.

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    20 hours ago

    This meme is timed really well with me being on holiday in the Netherlands. But it’s also true

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    One of my favorite things about visiting the Netherlands are the herring stalls :D

    I prefer mine in a bun, but all forms are delicious.