Not to be outdone, Trump had the following announcement from the White House:
“Today, the USA introduced its new chocolate bar, priced at over $10. Made of 0% cocoa, hydrogenated corn syrup, and trans fats. No natural ingredients, no milk, no vanilla. It’s bigly on flavor and very, very, tasty. We are taking pre-orders now at USAChocolate.gov.”
Oh god why did I read that as trump fats 🤮
Are you sure they would use TRANS fats?
Since the traitors actually cut funding for transgenic scientific study because they don’t know what trans means, this is in the realm of realistic. That’s where we’re at.
They mean the rendered fat of the trans people they’re planning to kill on an individual scale. Only half of that statement was a joke btw.
The MAGA candy bar on a stick in a gold wrapper $49.99. On a stick because it is for suckers.
on a stick because it is for suckers
Excellent.
Oh, and it’s gold. Not the wrapper, I mean, that is too, but the chocolate is a solid metallic gold color, like you are literally biting into a gold bar. It tastes nothing like chocolate.
It must be packaged in a gold wrapper.
If we’re using the hersey model, it would be 50% castor oil, and 50% butyric acid.
HAHAHA and they say having healthcare makes you feel freedom
bites into injection molded PFAS chocolate bar
They have NO idea what freedom tastes like.
spits out chewed candy bar
The best part is if you get the app subscription you can refill the taste for the next time you chew on it!
The lady doing the presentation said that it has 35% of cane sugar.
Also behind her you see “hecho con azúcar de caña” which means “made with cane sugar”.
Cane sugar is generally at least a bit refined merely to purify it (so unlike High-Frutose Corn Syrup it’s not made by chemically transforming something else).
That said, it’s unclear if they use unrefined sugar cane, though that stuff is a complete total pita to work with hence I doubt it’s not in the least bit refined.
Mind you I looked around and the info on this is all over the place: like for example saying “no added sugars” but then a bit further it turns out it has “cane sugar”, which does mean that sugars were added (as the cocoa plant doesn’t produce cane sugar, that would be the sugarcane plant).
Mind you, by all indications this beats almost all North American chocolates, but that hardly a tall barrier to overcome. It’s pretty common to find similar stuff in European supermarkets.
She also said it contains soy lecithin (just a little!) and salt
What would sweeten it if it didn’t have added sugars? I’m not sure I fully understand what you’re saying.
He’s saying its likely got cane sugar, which is basically “less” refined sugar. It seems unlikely it has no added sugars and likely what they are trying to say is: it has no high processed sugars/artificial sweeteners.
Hershey chocolate bar is rejected as chocolate because it doesn’t have enough cocoa and is contaminated with lead.
Hershey’s milk chocolate contains around 11% cocoa solids, meaning it doesn’t meet the European standard according to some sources. Therefore, in some European countries, Hershey’s is labeled as “chocolate-flavored” or “chocolate-flavored candy bar” rather than simply “chocolate”.
The cadmium is actually part of a new marketing push: “Try Hershey’s, they’re Cadmiummy”
That actually made me want it a little, thank you
Makes me think of “American Cheese Product,” “cheese” that is closer to plastic but tastes and feels like cheese.
tastes and feels like cheese.
X
mmm I want “American Plastic Product”
it is closer to cheese but tastes and feels like plastic
You know cheez whiz is grey before they add the orange coloring
Since wizards wear grey robes I feel this checks out.
contaminated with lead.
All dark chocolate is
Yes, but not all has as much metals in them…
Glad the quality chocolate and also coffee isn’t wasted on the US.
Would be pearls before swines.
They don’t know better anyway.This is just bigotry. Just because a shitty megacorp makes shitty products that doesn’t mean good chocolate or coffee don’t exist here. You sound like the type of person who bases their views entirely on stereotypes.
Oh no bigotry!
It’s not about 1 shitty company. OC in a large country there will be some individuals who get good coffee or chocolate.
But the vast majority consume garbage quality.
And it’s OK bcs they are tasteless peasants.
Drown it in sugar, or better their beloved corn syrup and they’ll happily swallow it by the buckets.
My view is based on all US products I had the misfortune to taste.
Besides stereotypes are often true.What a moron. You chosing to consume shitty products is not an excuse to be a racist bigot, and you choosing to believing does not make them true, that’s why they’re stereotypes. You’re sound exactly like nazi saying that the stereotypes about jews are often true or a white supremacist saying the stereotypes about black people are often true or a homophobic religious zealot saying that the stereotypes about gays are often true. You saying it so, doesn’t make it so, the only thing it does is demonstrate your appalling ignorance.
You should rather pity them. It’s like Platon’s Shadow Cave, they’ve been fed lies, their entire lives, the few of them that actually get out of the USA will know the difference… The sad thing is that if you try to convince the ones that have never left the country, they will die rather than admit defeat.
I have moved beyond pitying.
Maybe in 1930 where some people could be misled bcs of lack of information and really believed they did some good by putting on a nazi uniform is somewhat understandable.
These days everyone has internet and can find out anything if they want to.
Despite the vast propaganda and media control in the US it is no longer an excuse.
They are willfully ignorant.
Even when they get confronted online with unpleasant facts they get back in their trenches as you mentioned.
So no sympathy here, they can stay in their cave and rot.
Sounds like you chose the shitty chocolates. I almost never buy chocolate, but when I do, there is always a healthy selection of 85-90% cacao goodness available.
Fuck Americans.
I can’t even begin to imagine how miserable your social life must be. I just know everybody avoids you like the plague because they can smell the bigotry just oozing out of you.
You catching or pitching?
¿Porque no los dos?
Bend over
Oh yeah thanks for reminding me this is just another way the Government is taking money for the Lopez family
American government: Builds concentration camps
Mexican government: Develops brand new chocolate bars
I’m happy to see there are still some governments out there who rule in the interest of the people.
A high quality chocolate bar, at that.
Well, depends on if the advertising matches the product.
I mean, they list the ingredients and percentages.
They list what they claim are the ingredients and percentages.
They’re also the state. Who is going to fine them?
The MEXICAN government ruling in the interests of the people? This is absolutely delusional. Mexico is one of the most corrupt, dangerous, and unstable places in the world. The country is quickly turning into a warzone because of the cartels, and both the current and previous presidents and their government aren’t doing anything about it because they’re bought.
A government making a chocolate bar to distract from the crippling poverty and crime is not good governance, it’s the opposite.
Mexico’s murder rate per 100 000 is 24.9, meaning you’re on average safer in Mexico than in Newark, Memphis, Cleveland, Kansas City, Baton Rouge, New Orleans, Detroit, Baltimore or St. Louis.
Never mind that murders in Mexico are generally committed using American firearms, and for American money over drugs that are to be sold in America. Mexico’s problem is America. So while we wait for America to selfdestruct, I guess they might as well get to work on public health issues.
Obviously not saying that cartels are not a huge fucking problem. It’s hard to get good politicians when they murder anyone who resists them. But the cartels are in large part a product of America’s failures. Europeans are not innocent either - fuck every coke snorting upper class brat who is having their pathetic highs at the expense of a whole fucking continent.
/rant
What a load of nonsense
First of all, why are you comparing the homicide rate a country to specific cities? That’s the epitome of cherry picking. Compare country to country like a normal person. The US homicide rate in 2023 was 5.763 (ranks 66th), and Mexico’s in the same year was 24.859 (18th). This means that Mexico’s homicide rate is more than FOUR times higher than America’s homicide rate. Mexico’s homicide rate is so insanely high that it has more total murders annually (32,252) than the US (19,796), a country with 3x it’s population. The difference alone is so high that if it was ranked globally, it would rank 8th ahead of Pakistan and below Colombia, both notoriously dangerous countries with very high populations. Do you understand just how insanely dangerous Mexico is? Clearly not.
What’s crazy is that the US is a dangerous country. It is the most dangerous developed country by far. For Mexico to make the US look this safe in comparison means that it’s basically a war zone, and it is. Mexico is quite literally classified as one of the handful of countries that is experience a major war. That’s how bad the cartel wars have gotten. Pretending that US is anywhere near Mexico is beyond disingenuous.
But do you know what the federal Mexican government is doing about all the cartels and their rapes, human trafficking, drugs, violence, assassinations of local politicians, persecution of journalists, extortion, massacres, racketeering, barbaric executions, fraud, and literal fucking torture concentration camps? Nothing. They’re doing nothing. The current president, Sheinbaum, and her predecessor, AMLO, are both notorious for enabling the cartels. They let them do whatever they want without any consequences, and the people are paying the price for it.
No Mexican is going to ever tell you that the cartels are the fault of America. That’s the most mind numbingly idiotic take that anybody could have about the situation there. This is how I know that you’ve never talked to a Mexican in your life. Trying to infantilize Mexicans by blaming the issues of their country on America or Europe is just racism of low expectations. Mexico has agency and Mexican know that this the doing of their government’s corruption, incompetence, and negligence. These cartels should’ve been squashed the moment they arose, but they weren’t and they still aren’t even though things are getting out of control. This brainrotted mentality of thinking that you’re smart for blaming America for anything and everything neither makes you sound smart nor does it make your assertions true. The same goes for saying “America bad” as a comparison, it doesn’t negate the points brought up.
You can play all the mental gymnastics you want, it’s not going to change the fact that Mexico is an incredibly dangerous place and the Mexican government is not ruling in the interests of its people, and nobody is more vocal about this than Mexicans.
Wait I’m confused, so Mexico is safer than the USA, but they murder any politician who goes against the cartel?
Doesn’t sound so safe to me?
Must be easy to get confused when you can only have one thought in your head at a time, and barely even that.
I’m sure that sounded better in your head than it read.
It’s okay, you still have worth!
but the stats said it is safer!!! /s
Tell me you haven’t been to Mexico without telling me you haven’t been to Mexico.
Clearly you’ve never set foot in Mexico and if you have, you’ve only been to a heavily guarded resort in a place like Cancun with other white Americans. If you’re going to sit here and argue that Mexico is wealthy, safe, or that it’s government is doing good then you’re literally too ignorant for this conversation.
I live in here in Mexico and they did not lie at all
Political stuff aside… I’d love to visit Mexico, it looks like an absolutely beautiful place!
This guy is a zionist. Don’t waste your time with him
Just an FYI for anybody reading this thread, this guy is a well known troll on here. If you go through his comment history, he calls EVERYTHING zionist regardless of validity or context.
Sure i am a troll who call everybody a zionist. Like one of the guys not you who said gazans voted for hamas so palestinians deserve what happened to them
Good thing I’ve never said that, and I know you won’t be able to find a single comment to prove your claim either. I see you under every other post with your bad english claiming that everyone and everything is a zionist who loves genocide regardless of context, validity, or relevance. There’s never any evidence, but that won’t stop you making stuff up. Like I said, you’re a troll.
A bunch of bs. Your comment by my English show that you have no real arguments. English is my 3rd language, you can’t expect my English to be perfect. I only call people who every time Israel break international laws keep talking about iran, khamas , khizbollah and never ever talk about how israel war crimes.
You justified people getting arrested for protesting against calling Palestine actions. You justified Israel attack on Iran. Striking nuclear facilities is a war crime under international law. So stop pretending that you are not a zionist.
Anybody can check our comments histories and see who is lying.
You are not only a Zionist but also a transphobic
Seems a little off topic and unsourced?
If someone justify a genocide how can you him in anything?
By whether they’re making verifiable and objective claims? They aren’t, really, and they certainly didn’t source theirs, but it’s a lot more convincing to say that instead of making your own unsourced accusations.
I think the issue is that you’ve not provided evidence that the other user supports Israel’s genocide in Gaza.
At the end of the day it’s just an internet argument and not worth it, but if you want to make your point, I’d start by getting that evidence.
I do agree in principle that I would think twice before agreeing with any position a genocide supporter takes, though that doesn’t necessarily mean I will disagree on any particular point after giving it due thought. If they said throwing puppies from a roof was bad, I’d agree, for example.
Have you been to Mexico? How about you take a little vacation to Sinaloa to prove me wrong?
Sinaloa has some great towns
Sure, but that doesn’t mean it’s a safe place though
I was there a year ago. It was nice enough, not nearly as worrisome as I thought it would be. Yes, I stayed in the tourist areas, no I didn’t wander into the rural areas, no I didn’t try to start shit in clubs, yes I saw armed military on patrol. There were a lot of people trying to live their lives despite the serious crime in the region.
There are absolutely terrible things happening there and I would love for them to get better. I can say the same thing about the US. At least Mexico isn’t waging war on my country, trade or otherwise.
Where did you go? Culiacan? Mazatlan? If you stuck exclusively to the tourist areas and made sure you were on red alert all the time, and tried to avoid wandering anywhere or having any sort of confrontation, then you would be fine for the most part… but that in itself isn’t normal. By having that sort of discipline out of fear goes beyond the scope of normal tourist precautions.
Also, even though the US is dangerous in its own right, and has plenty of issues, it is not at all comparable to Mexico. The US homicide rate is a quarter of Mexico’s and it has been declining sharply over the past few years. There’s nothing like the cartels in the country, most of the crime is localized. There aren’t organized crime syndicates running entire cities.
You say that like most governments are acting like the US, which is just so dumb. Your comment reeks of “I only know about the US government and nothing else”.
Not objecting, but what is the motivation of the Mexican government to do this? Have they done similar things before?
I don’t think they’ve done something exactly like this, but they have aggressively tackled obesity in recent years, going as far as labeling all foods with excess fats, salt, and sugar. It’s very visible on the package and it does influence what I buy.
But this is the way I found out we’re doing this now. 😅
But also I think because all the existing cocoa producers are evil enslavers. This will help something like 1800 Mexican farmers.
Nestle is notoriously evil - I’m hoping Mexico can compete
The only thing that EU has yet to stiff-arm on.
they have aggressively tackled obesity in recent years
Actually doing something? Good on them!
Government should probably provide the cheapest food and set the standard.
However ideology like this leads to issues in reality.
If a competitor gets lower prices would hint at some questionability. Government correction becomes suppression. Suppression leads to . . .?
However ideology like this leads to issues in reality.
Issues for who? The consumer? Or the capitalists?
If a competitor gets lower prices would hint at some questionability.
It would hint that it’s a shitty product, presuming no foul play by the government and the product is not overpriced (doesn’t appear to be).
Government correction becomes suppression. Suppression leads to . . .?
Government correction how? From suppression I think you mean lowering their price? The scenario you’re laying out doesn’t make sense.
The point of this kind of product is to be the baseline, no capitalist should be able to afford to offer the same product for less, because the government already has the lowest possible margin.
You start by making a better product, and you can charge whatever people decide the improved product is worth. It’s a good thing that an asshole capitalist can’t market a $7 bar of chocolate when a very good quality one is $1. At that price difference, your chocolate better be amazing.
Don’t bother trying to correct them. They are convinced its a bad idea because its what they would do if they were in power.
So focused on hate and want you only see the consumer and capitalist, but not the worker’s back. However, all three shall crumble under such a fumble.
The lower price would mean lower quality traditionally yes, but also implies cost cutting measures beyond that. Then creating regulation as a governance is expected the lowest prices. Did they circumvent regulations, taxes, etc.
Government correction can overextend their force with control of the fields and markets. Just look at the farming or fiahing history in most nations who had regulated government contracts.
The point of this kind of product is to be the baseline, no capitalist should be able to afford to offer the same product for less, because the government already has the lowest possible margin.
HENCE, how could a capitalist compete, leaving only inferior or circumvention of regulations. Needing recitifying. Over extension of power leads to suppression of the workers, field owners, and consumers. With capitalism winning.
Your last paragraph is ludicrous, start by making a better product. Reflecting in cost and raising the value of the product reaching the end user. Antithetical to your previous point.
You have so little experience with the pain of the world that you can only dream your comforts.
So what does suppression of the people lead to?
So focused on hate
Cope better. There was no hate.
The lower price would mean lower quality traditionally yes
No no no, it’s not lower quality, it’s just not luxury. It’s better than the $5 Hershey bars available to you in the US. This is not a law of economics, it’s a capitalist assumption. Lower prices can mean lower quality in for-profit contexts because companies cut costs to maximize profit. But in a nonprofit, state-run model, the goal is different: providing a high-quality public good at an accessible price. This is a de-commodification of a necessity or cultural staple. Chocolate in Mexico has deep indigenous and historical roots.
Then creating regulation as a governance is expected the lowest prices. Did they circumvent regulations, taxes, etc.
I don’t know, did they?
The insinuation here is that the government is cheating the system. But if the government is the one setting or adapting the regulations, this is not circumvention, it’s governance. State-run enterprises often don’t need to chase profit margins because their revenue model isn’t extractive.
HENCE, how could a capitalist compete
Correct, that’s the point. The state provides a baseline to protect people from price-gouging and artificial scarcity. Capitalists can compete, but they must add value, not by suppressing wages or cutting quality, but by genuine innovation or diversification.
This is similar to how public healthcare in many countries sets a baseline: if private healthcare wants to exist, it must offer more, not extract more.
Over extension of power leads to suppression of the workers, field owners, and consumers. With capitalism winning.
This is incoherent nonsense. Capitalism “winning” through the suppression of workers is not a bug; it’s a feature. State efforts to offer goods affordably often arise precisely to counteract capitalist suppression.
The idea that public chocolate production suppresses workers more than Nestlé or Hershey’s, companies with notorious labor violations, is laughable.
You have so little experience with the pain of the world that you can only dream your comforts.
That’s just a rhetorical grenade, you’re not engaging with what I said, you’re trying to discredit me personally. And honestly, it’s frustrating. You’re implying that lived suffering and collective solutions can’t go hand in hand, but that’s just not true. Some of the fiercest, most committed advocates for public goods come from deep struggle, especially across the Global South.
The hate was you focusing on the profiteers, and want was you focused on consumers. However the product must go from a to b. Then b to c. Etc. Workers are a key aspect of this process and most people ignore this.
Chocolate in mexico does have deep indigenous and historical roots. However this is not why it’s so big, it’s massive due to a bunch of exploitation of the region. It’s why Mexico has only sorta been at peace since the 1980s. I have studied greatly how white supremacists funded some of our state conflicts. Literally the KKK.
Anyways, you are too focused on the chocolate example when I never really talked about it. All I am saying is this is good, however I can also see it growing corrupt by forfeiting too much to the governance. Going back around from one capitalist structure to the next. State efforts to counteract start one way, I am saying they always end the same. Power corrupts.
Anyways, my point is the people will rise if they are suppressed. What goes up must come down, as above so below.
However, you have too much faith in governance, for yours has not taken from you humanity.
This meaningless, conceited ramble could have been more effective simply by pointing out that state industry can force an unfair competition simply by subsidizing its products with tax revenue, hiding the actual costs and potentially forcing any rivals out of business even easier than private industry can.
Thank you for joining me in the conceited side for thinking your point is more correct.
They work in tandem, but no one who is good can agree on what is good. Only on what is bad.
Uhh what?
It’s called competition. Having a competitor in the market who’s goal is to keep people fed instead of making money hand over fist would both bring prices down and bring quality up on higher priced items.
If we have to do capitalism, let’s get some not-for-profit competition happening.
In an ideal world, yes that would be the competition. However, in reality if the governance sets the standard, they can have almost always the cheapest prices. Wide reach, built transportation systems and probably incentivized contracts. Essentially everything that fucked up India with the British during ww2.
Well if another company can go lower, it inherently implies they are skimping somewhere so quality is lost or regulations circumvented. Any government correction can overstep.
Go start your not-for-profit competition. Farm for yourself, grow crops at home, reduce your footprint. Find community in your neighborhood.
However, in reality if the governance sets the standard, they can have almost always the cheapest prices. Wide reach, built transportation systems and probably incentivized contracts.
Yes, and yes, but why are either of these a bad thing? Cheap, good quality food seems like a good thing to me.
Essentially everything that fucked up India with the British during ww2.
If the British provided cheap food, they could actually have avoided the Bengal famine. (Unless you mean some other fuckup I’m not aware of.)
I never said they are a bad thing. I am saying it is forfeiting a lot to the governance - seizing the means of production to them.
The bengali famine was a multifaceted issue, however primarily it was the contracts and forced control of the British. In which they withhold food availability for war time embargos along with a focus on textile farming. All the contractees then essentially focused on money rather than food, as that was the profit of a contract.
Less profits for shareholders? And that is unacceptable!
/s
Reducing obesity.
With a chocolate bar? I see it has less refined sugar, but it could still have the same amount of sugar.
When reducing unhealthy food in your diet, having less-bad alternatives to the unhealthy thing you’re craving can be a big help as your metabolism adjusts to the new diet.
For a personal example I’ve been greatly reducing sugar in my diet and sometimes I just crave something sweet. I’ve found ice cream to be the least sugary option, and I consume less sugar by having a bowl of ice cream than I would by having a few chocolates. My wife has a significant soda drinking habit and when she really craves a soda she’s been turning to the Poppi and Olipop sodas as less-bad alternatives
Yikes, ice cream is one of the worst things you could be eating, super high calorie density and extremely high fat content. Here is a far better ice cream alternative that can be made at home.
refined sugars are processed by the digestive system faster and are turned to fat.
Processed or not, sugar is only turned to fat in the body if it is 1) fructose, or 2) more than what you need. Every cell in our bodies can store sugar in the form of glycogen. If our glycogen stores are low, any consumed sources of sugar will be enzymatically broken down, the fructose converted in our liver, and the glucose converted to glycogen and circulated in our blood to replenish the rest of our stores. Then after this process the excess will be converted to fat.
As for fatty acids themselves, they generally go to our muscles first if needed, and then the rest fills our fat cells.
They sneak in just a little of that fentanyl. It’s to die for.
Americans have such a shitty life that they’re addicted to drugs and can’t stop buying them, but sure, it’s Mexicans sneaking it in.
For reference, this is the legal definition in France (which still allows for some shitty chocolate BTW) :
Chocolat :
a) Désigne le produit obtenu à partir de produits de cacao et de sucres contenant, sous réserve du point b, pas moins de 35 % de matière sèche totale de cacao, dont pas moins de 18 % de beurre de cacao et pas moins de 14 % de cacao sec dégraissé.
Rough translation:
Chocolate is the product obtained from cocoa and sugars which shall contain no less (although see point b) than 35% of dry cocoa solids including 18% cocoa butter and 14% dry degreased cocoa.Point b covers specialty chocolates, such as guanduja, etc.
Full text here(fr)
Edit: better formatting
What is the objective behind selling the chocolate bars? I will have to delve deeper into the topic.
I would presume it’s because they’re low in sugar. Due to exploding diabetes rates, Mexico has been making a concerted effort in the last few years to stem the consumption of sugary foods, drinks and snacks, particularly amongst kids. You can’t have a cartoon mascot on a box of cereal, for example. They put big stickers over Tony the Tiger before changing the packaging completely. And the cost of snack foods has skyrocketed, making it largely unaffordable for lots of Mexican families. A bag of chips there costs more than it does in North America.
My guess is that this is part of that effort.
Makes sense. I recall watching a documentary showcasing how children were drinking from 2L soft drink bottles.
Mexico is in North America
But has healthy food become cheaper?
Is there anything cheaper than rice or oats?
Man, I hope so.
When I worked in one of the poorest places in the US, those people literally couldn’t afford to get quality food.
They had no refrigeration so they’d walk to the dollar general and get microwave tv dinners super cheap and heat them up at my store.
You take that cheap shit away and don’t provide alternatives and those people literally starve.
I’ve heard people say, “those people just need to get a job.” When I was in my 20s I tried very hard to employ them. (My uncle owned a chain of gas stations and, despite his issues, he cares about people and tries to help where he can in his way).
One story that stands out in my mind. Dude shows up with the application, gives a great interview. Apparently social services were going to cut him off if he didn’t get a job. He worked for less than a week, then drank a half a gallon chocolate milk to cause issues with his diabetes so he could leave without confrontation via ambulance.
When I got his paperwork, he could not read or write and was scribbling random gibberish. There’s no telling how much just went out the door because he didn’t know how to handle it.
I was so angry at the person who trained him because she didn’t say anything about this. She just coldly said, “he’s an idiot. He isn’t going to last.”
The world shits on people like him. He was denied his disability over and over again.
WV? In the 90s, I remember my uncle still didn’t have a septic tank or sewage; the family still used an outhouse. For breakfast, they’d often make biscuits and gravy with this weird, and I assume cheap, canned-gravy I’ve never seen anywhere else (was good, but likely very unhealthy). Most of my family from there are dead now (drugs, shit-life-syndrome).
Also, I didn’t have a septic tank either as a kid. I remember using outhouses at relatives houses and our shit (at my house) just went from a pipe to the creek.
It’s hard to imagine living like that nowadays, but I did once upon a time.
You know it. I’m a West (by God) Virginian.
Crazy how I can just talk about the place and my fellow West Virginians know it without me saying it.
You and I have the same story haha.
She said it has 35% cane sugar, which pretty much means 35% of hydrocarbons just from that (if the sugar is refined, down to 32% if it’s totally unrefined) plus about 8% of the powered milk is also hydrocarbons, so let’s say it’s 40g hydrocarbons per 100g of product which is very bad for diabetics.
And this is without going into the total caloric level, which must high, not only from all that sugar but also because cocoa butter is pretty caloric.
There’s 100%-cocoa chocolate (or even the 90% one) and that stuff is very sour, so totally different.
This is fine for kids, because it avoids artificial ingredients, but it’s not for diabetics.
Kind of ironic. Chocolate is naturally high in saturated fats, which hypothetically might contribute more toward diabetes than the sugar. On the other hand, high fat plus high sugar will certainly do a lot more damage than just one or the other.
American slop producers in shambles
If you haven’t had chocolate with vanilla in it, consider trying it. It’s my favorite chocolate additive. You need to purge ideas about vanilla being sweet or creamy. It’s a tobaccoy rich flavor that adds some depth even to dark chocolate.
As a kid we’d make our own milkshakes at home and the best ones we came up with were vanilla ice cream with chocolate syrup.
Woah woah there Mr Radical. None can withstand such bold flavors combined. Vanilla AND chocolate?
Preposterous
Funny, it didn’t taste as good with chocolate ice cream.
Throw some malt in there!!!
Since I discovered dark chocolate ice cream, I’ve been dying for someone to make a dark chocolate and vanilla twist soft serve.
Just about all spirits that are aged in a wooden barrel gets a hint of vanilla flavor, hence i consider it a wood flavor.
Fun fact - Nilla Wafers stopped using real vanilla decades ago to cut costs, and the replacement vanilla-like flavoring is a wood derivative.
if chocolate goes extinct I dont think im gonna make it, man
We have government cheese! Why not.
Lol I don’t know whether that’s cool or uncool. “Government cheese” does sound epic though.
It’s very good.
I’ve had it, its good…lardy, but good.
Thats why every fast food place has some kind of cheese stuffed cheesy cheese topped cheese (thats right we put cheese in it) cheezy meal
Not the news I was expecting but kind of a cool way to address a variety of issues, like obesity, imports from US, generating revenue, subsidizing a national crop, etc.
Don’t hold your breath, the Mexican government makes the American government under Republican rule seem competent. Just like how the American government is bought and paid for by corporations, the Mexican government is bought and paid for by the cartels.
I’d love to have a taste.
Too bad I live in Northern Europe…probably not worth buying via the Internet even if it was possible…
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t
Mexico to sellmind Mexico selling chocolate but why are they thinking this is part of their job as government??I don’t Mexico to sell chocolate
Well I do Mexico to sell chocolate.
Comedy aside, I think its to address the extraordinary obesity issues that Mexico has faced in the past 20 years. Mexico is in my top 2 of countries I’m moving to as the US collapses, but they have real issues with refined foods and especially added sugar.
What’s your other top 2 country? If I go I think I’m going to switch continents. I would prefer there to be a whole ocean between me and this bullshit.
Brazil is in the conversations. Mainly for professional reasons and because they do still invest in the kinds of science that my partner and I do, and I have many colleagues there and some family near Rio.
The other is Tahiti, because I’ve got a pretty substantial Vanilla production operation going at this point, which was kind-of the entire point of why I moved to where I did. I also have access to EU citizenship through my mother, and I as far as a visa to live and work in the country, I think that part should be straight forwards since its basically France. My partner and I also have some connections to the university, University of French Polynesia. My partner has also previously worked for CNRS in Toulouse, although briefly. Buying land might be out of reach because its ridiculously expensive, but I can imagine various ways of making it happen.
We’re seriously considering some option at this point, but its very tough because we moved to where we live because this is where we wanted to live. We’ve also got a wide range of “things” going on that are difficult, but not impossible, to disentangle ourselves from.
Big warning on moving to Brazil for science. Getting lab materials takes forever to get delivered and frequently just never arrives. I had a roommat do her last year of PhD research in the us because work was so much faster here due to how much better and more reliable logistics are.
I mean thats a great consideration. Luckily for me, I’m more on the pure computation/ analysis side of the house. I don’t really do wet chemistry any more, although my partner does.
Good info. France and Norway are appealing, I have a friend with family over there who likes me. The Netherlands is on my list as well, I’ve been there a few times and they don’t currently have any political drama that I’m aware of.
Oh boy, there is political drama here in the Netherlands right now.
The most right wing party in the coalition stepped out of the government because the other parties refused to sign its “strictest immigration policy ever”, so we’re heading towards elections again. Meanwhile parliament approved a law making being an illegal resident or helping one a crime. It needs to pass through the senate yet, but still. The minister of agriculture was found by a judge to abuse her power to obstruct freedom of information. There’s still no plan to solve the nitrogen pollution crisis, leading to building projects being on hold throughout the country. Against their promise of not drilling for gas in the northern province of Groningen anymore they’ve allowed it again, leading to more earthquakes. A singer was accused of antisemitism by politicians because he refused to play at a gig that had posters promoting Zionism, which led to him having to flee the country with his family because of death threats. Don’t speak out against Israel here either. There were border patrols done by a group of “activists” looking for illegals (“we found no brown people or anyone looking like that” they said), which were small and luckily stopped, but still. Then there are the government cuts in all social sectors, killing all services slowly over the years. Public transport, education, healthcare, municipal services, welfare, it’s all going downhill. And while the government still has to pay back thousands of parents it had wrongly accused of daycare fraud, the next screw-up was discovered a few months ago and they now also have to pay thousands of people on welfare for being sick because they had underpaid them for years.
The election campaign is probably gonna be a bunch of screaming matches about immigrants and refugees and name calling again even though there are far more pressing issues going on. It’s not as fascist here as it is in the US yet, but that’s only because we have a more reasonable electoral system.
Yeah I can’t do anything above 22 degrees or below -22 degrees. I mean its right there in the name.
If you come to europe i hope you didn’t vote for one of the genociders.
We don’t like your kind
Yes I know, and you shouldn’t. I voted for everyone who was against Trump.
I might just stay here and start building guillotines.
You’ll pay tarrifs for foreign parts but you can easily offset those because of the increasing demand
Mexico is 25th on this list with 36.1% of its population obese. The US is 13th at 42.9%.
Yeah well, Mexico is #1 on this list. I don’t even see the US on the list.
Shit I hadn’t even considered that. Glad I know now
Cacao is a national treasure, and America floods Mexico with Hershey’s, Snickers, and other subpar “chocolate” and destroys local competition with cheap prices.
Fun fact:
The word “chocolate” is derived from the Nahuatl word Xocholatl (chikola-tl).
Try chocolate that wasn’t made in America… Then imagine living a country with some of the best ingredients for chocolate making, and only seeing American chocolate on your store shelves… If capitalism is breaking stuff, the government is pretty much the only ones that can fix it. Though when the government is the thing that capitalism is breaking, I can see why you might not want them to do more than they currently do.
Government is supposed to be about pooling money so it can be more efficiently and effectively spent. Economies of scale. Even if the government only half does what you want and half does stuff you don’t care about, you are still getting better bang for your buck than if you tried to use your own tiny amounts of money to buy the half you do want.
Try chocolate that wasn’t made in America…
I’m actually very fond of the US but the chocolate is absolute filth, sorry lads. I was so excited to try Hershey’s and holy moly was it an earth shattering disappointment.
Born and bred in America and won’t eat American chocolate - literally tastes like vomit. And I do mean literally - Hershey’s chocolate goes through a process called lipolysis that breaks down their milk some and introduces butyric acid, which gives Parmesan, sour cream and other pungent dairy foods (and vomit) their smells.
When they perfected the process so it didn’t happen anymore, people stopped buying their chocolate as it ‘tasted funny’ now and they started adding it artificially
Literally stockholm syndromed into enjoying the flavor of vomit…
No wonder our country is fucked, it was founded by morons
Right… Well that’s some insight. Thank you . I heard a rumour that it was down to it being popular during a war where cocoa was in short supply but that makes sense too.
There’s more American chocolate than just Hersey. This is like saying american burgers are filth because McDonalds exists.
There is. That’s fair, and some of it was decent and that’s not to say that all American chocolate is bad because that would be stupid of course, as you say. And I’m sure there’s top notch American chocolate. Of course there is.
But, the dominant chocolate, the one that foreigners associate with the US, was shite IMO. That’s all.
And tbh I do like an oul’ mackers. I wouldn’t call McDonald’s the Hershey’s of burgers.
This is all subjective and I’m not being a cunt. I just was expecting sparkles in my mouth and I got… Hershey’s.
Fair, fair. And I may not agree with your take on Micky Dees, but goddamn I respect it!
High five from the far side of the Atlantic at 1:36am and not entirely sober ✋
Cheers mate 🤚
Yeah, that’s exactly what they’re talking about, did you not read the rest of that post?
I only eat US made chocolate. Good stuff. Sometimes I’m tempted to buy some German garbage like Ritter Sport out of nostalgia from living there but then I slap myself and remember I don’t have to eat out of a trash can.
It is. They’ve got you conditioned to accept that government is just there to hurt you, it’s supposed to make society worth living in.
Governments subsidize foods all the time. Yours probably does, too.
Mexico already has Welfare Stores, and this bar is being made in co-op with Food for Wellness.
I’m barely old enough to remember government cheese.
Mexico has been trying a lot to reduce obesity through various product labeling. This looks like a step in that direction; a snack that uses an indigenous ingredient (chocolate) in a manner that complies with federal guidelines.
You mean Mexico made certain Goods MORE Expensive but then Offered a Public alternative so people don’t HAVE to pay the Increase in Price?
That’s STUPID! They should just Slap a TARIFF on it WITHOUT Investment or Alternatives and let their Citizens deal with the Price increase!
They could be making their businesses “eat” the tariffs, but instead their people are eating good chocolate? That’s it, I’m heading down there, I’m sold.
I did notice that the Mexican coke that I occasionally buy as a treat (in the US) got new labels printed on the bottle instead of just a sticker.
For some reason it doesn’t taste as good as it used to though. Feels like even more sugar than previously maybe? I should look it up.
Citizen morale is probably the most important job of government but people like you want to make us forget that
I don’t follow Mexican politics closely, but this could be part of an effort to curb obesity. I’ve heard they introduced taxes on sugary drinks for this, so this might be another avenue.
If people are wanting cheap snacks, and private companies are only making unhealthy ones, you can introduce regulations to micromanage what they can produce, or you can introduce a complex taxation process to disincentivize sugar snacks. Or you can introduce your own product that meets a perceived unmet demand in an underserved market.
Government is the things we choose to do together. If the people choose healthy chocolate, then that’s the job.
Totally agree, didn’t mean to apply i’m against it but it just felt random. Thought maybe they were inspired by the donalds merchandise ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
That might be one of the best bang par buck moves possible from their health care department.
Because they tried leaving it to the private sector and people got unhealthy from eating cheap refined carbs?
If I had to guess, it’s likely due to the obesity problem they were having
Providing healthy abordable food should be the first job of any governement.
Chocolate is candy, not food
Chocolate is food and is used in some Mexican sauces. It just happens to be that the most typical modern use is chocolate is in candy.
