• Archer@lemmy.world
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    1 hour ago

    It’s funny when .ml actually encounters real people who downvote their bullshit

  • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    15 hours ago

    Reported* suicide rate

    “Well akshually they just hide it, the real suicide rate is way higher and they lie to look good. I know this because as a rando on the internet I have access to ultimate truth, and am not just reflexively defending my own learned biases in the face of contrary evidence.”

    Unfalsifiable orthodoxy. If the numbers were switched, and the socialist countries had the higher suicide rates, none of these liberals would be talking about “lies, damned lies, and statistics.”

    You’re not going to see a significant suicide rate, if the people who might kill themselves, are killed by something else first. Mostly looking at NK.

    Or they just pretend that every Designated Bad Country is mad max. No matter what the actual data is, liberals will tell themselves a story about how it’s actually evidence of the opposite. Believe science, until the science says they’re wrong: then the science is lies because everybody knows Communism Bad. It’s an unshakeable religious belief in the inferiority of other countries and systems. Blue MAGA indeed.

    • Hyacin (He/Him)@lemmy.ml
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      15 hours ago

      Yeah kinda silly, I mean the post title even is about “interesting data” - true or false, the data is interesting. What is the point of downvoting something literally just showing published data?! If you think the data is false/misleading/etc./etc./etc., that doesn’t take away from it being “interesting”, if anything it makes it more “interesting”, so how about stopping in and talking about it instead of just drive-by downvoting??

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    8 hours ago

    unpopular opinion: it should be a human right (once it’s determined you don’t have a mental illness severe enough to prevent you from seeing other obvious solutions to your suffering) and a society that keeps people alive by force is authoritarian in and of itself.

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      15 hours ago

      Do you think 21% of South Koreans are killing themselves every year? lmao

      It’s per 100,000 which is somewhat standard for this kind of stat. South Korea’s is actually even higher right now at 28.3 for 2024.

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      Every 100 000.

      This is formatted to imply percentage, but for that the decimal points on these should be moved three digits over.

      That 16.6 is 0.0166%.

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        No matter where you put the decimal the difference between the 2 doesnt change. All the numbers are judged by the same metric. How you format them is irrelevant. If you make the 16.6 into 0.0166 then the 6.7 becomes 0.0067 and all youve managed to do is make the numbers harder to understand.

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    Well yeah.

    You’re not going to see a significant suicide rate, if the people who might kill themselves, are killed by something else first. Mostly looking at NK.

    As for China, their population is so large that almost any bad stat looks small. Zoom in on someplace like Hong Kong, and the stats go right back to concerning.