He is giving free points to Farage like he is… A fecking idiot
He’s a straight up reform plant. Nothing else makes sense at this point.
Handing your information to Peter Thiel and palantir just like the us did
On one hand, I agree with all the concerns listed in the article. Of course it’s all in the implementation. Digital ID doesn’t necessarily have to be terribly implemented and a privacy nightmare, but I doubt any current government would implement it any other way.
That said, it makes me pretty grumpy that people are happy enough to have corporations like google, amazon, facebook, et al know everything about them, but somehow a government ID is a bridge too far.
I think it’s explained by the fact that governments assert a monopoly on violence, including imprisonment. The apparent risk is higher. You also can’t opt out, whereas you (theoretically, if not in practice) can with private services.
And more importantly, it’s highly visible, versus buried in a disclosure or hidden on a server. If the information those companies gather were in front of people’s faces, they’d be more up in arms about it.
I don’t agree with the digital ID since it has implications to snowball further down road into a tool for a implemented authoritarian surveillance state.
But the fact everyone basically carries a smartphone with personal data that is linked to private corporations is kinda ironic.
Like the government can’t have a digital footprint of you but Google, Apple, Samsung etc can.
I’m sure these private companies are the bastions of privacy. They surely won’t sell your data or bend over to government subpoenas at the first real threat to their bottom line.
No discussion regarding this digital ID has rwally mentioned this and I find it incredibly concerning.
There should be base line regulation stopping this both at the private and governmental levels. But if the last 5ish years have shown in the world, most people are realistically comfrontable and complacent in all this. At least until the gestapo are at your door., but then it’s a week bit too late isn’t it.
I have a passport, driving licence in addition to other info necessary for applying for a job eg NI number.
Why do I need an ID? I bet there’d be some charge for it too. No. On principle no. He can get fucked.
Britain doing overtime trying to overtake America in the fascism rankings.
Always has. Brits dig fascism for some reason. The accent makes people think that they are “civilized “but the country is filled with angry fashy white people.
I don’t get why they are necessary, given you can’t (or shouldn’t) be able to get a job without a birth certificate, NI number, proof of ID such as a driving license/passport/current government issued ID card.
Brits: the government has sold London’s public squares to private companies so we can’t protest there, they are arresting people for waving flags where they can still protest, we are against international human rights courts, but we draw the line at an id document.
That doesn’t seem to make a lot of sense for any values any politician claims in public–but if you connect the dots you see a pretty distinctive silhouette.
did Starmer figure out that Facial Rec wasn’t working?
Protip: if you’re having to take bets between adults and the horny kids getting porn… bet on the horny kids.
I dunno–as an adult I’m pretty good at getting porn.
It would not surprise me a bit if the petition is ignored.
I don’t get it. What’s wrong with digital ID? Most EU countries have digital certificates and/or some sort of a government app you can use as an ID. What’s different here?
it’s a slippery slope:
- want to buy alcohol? must scan your digital ID. Now the government knows how much you drink.
- want entry to this nightclub? must scan your digital ID. Now the government knows you go to G.A.Y on Fridays.
- want to withdraw cash from the bank? yeah, you need a valid digital ID scan.
The next government could massively curtail freedom of movement, protest and expression with the tools this government are intent on forging. Remember, they already tried to make porn subject to age checks, and everyone installed a VPN. Want to use a VPN? we’re going to need a digital ID scan please.
Interesting. In other countries digital ID is treated the same as normal ID card. When I’m buying alcohol I can scan my digital ID or just show my card. No one is forcing anyone to only use the digital one. Are there any indications that the plan is to deprecate physical cards?
I’m a risk averse person. I don’t see “in other countries they do X,” rather I think “if this happens and a government gets in whose interests are unaligned with my own, what could they do with this new power I let them have.”
In the case of the UK, the far right is on the rise. Today if a digital ID card is introduced, then probably no one will force me to use it. However in the future that can change.
Let me give you an example: the UK allowed the government to change the law so that it gets to determine who is a terrorist and who isn’t. They don’t need to go to court, or have a judge sign off. They use these powers to silence legitimate protest against a number of issues that inconvenienced the billionaire class.
Imagine attending a protest to call for the government to be held to account for a bad decision it made, and the next day your digital ID no longer allows you to travel to work by train. We are giving them the legal power to do this, if we stand by and do not resist.
Also, I’m lucky enough to be a citizen of the country I live in. Will enforcing some addition “digital proof of citizenship” make the country a better place? Will it make undocumented people decide to leave or simply more desperate/vulnerable? If they get sick, will they be afraid to seek medical care - spreading illness rather than getting treatment.
I get it but I still think it’s more about just being against the government than any realistic risk. You already have to show your ID to buy alcohol or enter some places. The government could simply require shop owners to scan the ID with government app. Digital ID is not needed to monitor where each ID is used. And you don’t have to show your ID to use public transport. Just having digital ID doesn’t mean it will be mandatory to use it everywhere. They can just as easily require normal ID everywhere. The risks you’re describing are basically a big stretch. But I get it, you don’t trust this government to do anything so this includes digital ID.
