Kim: the best socialist paradise in the world (for me).
Question is, why haven’t they done so till now
He had to get his sister’s permission.
Kim: well, it wasn’t me who sanctioned Glorious Korea to hell. I do what is possible.
Not sure that required building a hell scape dictatorship
It doesn’t require that. But the reproach was about economic questions, not dictatorship. I would keep silent if that wasn’t the case.
Lemmy’s resident troll finally getting upvotes, and it’s for playing the Cuba card.
If there’s anything supported strongly around here, it’s socialist paradises.
The Cuba card? I don’t even see anyone else mentioning Cuba but you.
The Cuba card is that the only reason Cuba isn’t a socialist paradise is because of sanctions. It has nothing to do with authoritarians of all stripes being bad for their nations.
Saudi Arabia is extremely authoritarian, and they seem to be doing well with no sanctions. Even though they murder and dismember American journalists. :-)
Decades of sanctioning and warmongering by the US and its allies has kept a small country like the DPRK on the defensive, which isn’t ideal if you want a thriving nation, regardless of its ideology.
The DPRK and South Korea are like 1984 and BNW next to each other.
In the DPRK, at least the repression is clear. In South Korea, it’s drowned in a sea of consumerism. You have to pay premiums for healthcare, housing issues exist, and so on.
The answer is therefore, anarchocommunism; as it combines freedom of speech with freedom of life standards effectively.
I will never not read it as arachno
Communism has always been the ideal. However, we have to take into account that we do not live in a bubble insulated from everyone else. We are facing the real, global and continuous threat of imperialist invasion by the capitalist forces. See Cuba and Venezuela, for instance.
It’s really hard to not be an ultra-militaristic society when the CIA and the enemies of the proletariat are always lurking in the shadows and looking for any miniscule gap to breach socialist countries from within. Regardless, we need to diffuse a proletarian, anti-bourgeois culture among the masses in order to inhibit the possibilities of foreign intervention.
Brah, no one buys your online roleplay.
I think it is possible to establish a society that is not militaristic. It must always be prepared to combat fascism and capitalism; but it must also have freedom of speech.
An anarchocommunist society must prevail through the full liberation of all people; it must mean that basic needs are taken care of, and that all can discuss freely without hatred, without fear of state repression. It must mean that corruption and oligarchism is nonexistent.
I do not believe in a society where everyone lives in fear; I believe in a society where everyone lives in joy for the next day.
People are stupid. Look at the United States. The only way to rule these people is through fear.
Unfortunately when people criticize socialist countries for the lack of “free speech,” even if with good intentions, they are usually parroting the talking points of Western, bourgeois media and only serves as to justify imperialist intervention against them.
These criticisms however derive from an ignorance of the way politics work in such countries whose only perception comes from behind the iron curtain and only through the lens of fascist and capitalist media.
In historically socialist countries, democracy had always been principally practiced on the local and communal stages, where individuals had the most capacity to take decisions regarding their daily lives and the situation of their neighbourhood, locality or commune. I highly recommend reading on this topic:
We keep spending most our lives living
in a socialist paradise
Read theory once or twice
in a socialist paradise
Those train stations look almost too nice
in a socialist paradise
They look nice because no one’s allowed to use them. They build stuff, but the population is too poor or not privileged enough to be able to use anything. It just looks nice and it’s empty. Just like democracy.
And his family waited 3 generations to even begin!
They needed to read all the theory before starting the actual work
Between the DPRK and the US, the DPRK is far preferable. And between those two and the Zapatists, the last are so far ahead in preferableness, that no one can meet it.
Long live communism; and especially that which is anarchist! Fascism and imperialism must fall.
I also support sending this guy to North Korea. Do you have a GoFundMe?
The DPRK is not a truly communist state, just a poorly-run dictatorship masked with the guise of communism.
its actually a monarchy to technically at least thats why an IR professor said at my school, i was in an IR class. since hes basically a king, and apponints a male heir/heiress.
Oh, it certainly is a dictatorship, alright. But I’ll take free healthcare, free housing, and the like, over the capitalist hellhole that is the USA anytime.
And if I choose, I would like that with freedom of speech too - freedom to be a communist, union organiser, or whatever. Freedom to criticise the government.
Indeed, I think in this regard, it’s choosing between walking in Antarctica, and doing so in the scorching desert. Both kill you, just in different ways. While you can put up more clothes, you cannot strip yourself off with less than your skin, without dying at all.
What I favour, is a society in where all are free from need, and free to criticise without hatred. Economic security is basic; and political freedom must come with it.
That is why if I had to choose between all three (the US, China, and the Zapatists), I would elect the last; and if between the former two, China.
Yes master, please let me lick your boot as you step on me and kill my family! /s
You have no idea what the hell your talking about. You cannot freely criticize there, you will die. You have no economic security there, you will own nothing. You have no political freedom there, you will die if you don’t do as they say.
A foolish, blind approach to the rise of fascism, more fascism is bad, you fell for it worse than a 4channer did for trump.
I think as a citizen in NK, freedom of speech or political freedom would not be a high priority during countrywide food shortages. /s
As a citizen of NK, I always kiss my main piece of Kim for the good of the party! /s
Doesn’t matter what economic or government style they are, anyplace like that is a hellscape.
Communism: stateless, classless and moneyless sociality. DPRK: totalitarian hereditary dictatorship
They are not the same.
Skips over the Zapatists, which check what you describe as communism
Not an agenda at all, I see! Indeed, communism is the answer. The problem is fascism.
Speaking of hereditary totalitarian dictatorships, we could say the same regarding the USA, with its political families; the Bushes, the Trumps, and so on. No doubt he is a corrupt bastard.
The US having political families seems pretty minor compared to the leader just handing down the job to their son
Both are corrupt to me.
It’s like saying both diarrhea and brain cancer are bad. Yes they are but there’s obvious pretty big difference in severity.
If you truly believe that, then why are you posting here and not working on getting there? There, where you would have no rights, especially to post somewhere like here.
Could say the same about American imperialists, who have no liberty, freedom, or anything to criticise their own government!
You also ignore that I said I much prefer the Zapatists. Which indeed do give all the liberty that there is.
I prefer on building anarchocommunism in my own country.
Where did I defend the West or hold the United States up as a shining example? I didn’t. News Flash, North Korea is helping Russian imperialism right now. Any bloated state with centralized power participates in imperialism whenever it suits them. East or west.
The reason I didn’t mention the Zapistas because I don’t strictly disagree with them or what they are doing as an anarchist. And they are also a completely different beast from North Korea!
It’s common to see such derangement among militant/low information leftists. On the one side, glorifying the proletariat fighting for their rights. While on the other side, glorifying a neptocracy that’s their antithesis. If you don’t think oppression is bad in and of itself as long as it’s your team doing the oppression. You’re part of the problem.
I don’t care if you don’t believe the western stance on NK. At least believe the people that had been there and escaped. The state doesn’t even properly feed it’s population, let alone have universal healthcare. It’s a joke, and not just the West’s fault. The leadership would rather spend wastefully on stagnant military and pomp to stroke their own egos. Building cities their people can’t live in. And just because I know it will need to be said. No, this is not an endorsement of South Korea.
why bother with a tankie, just block him.
