Jesus said nothing about people transitioning and gender, but IIRC early and medieval Christian scholars condemned bodily modifications because the body was God’s creation and property and it ought to be kept intact for resurrection.
The Bible is an inconsistent mess that people can read anything into. Referring to it is an exercise in cherry-picking. It has good Jesus parts, but there’s the whole rest of the morally bankrupt nonsense with evil god shit:
- vengeful god who
- commands genocide, demands worship, & creates evil
- punishes disobedience with curses, plagues, cuckoldry, cannibalism to eat your own children, slavery, infighting
- endorses genocide, killing innocents, slavery, selling daughters to sex slavery, rape, forced marriage of victim to their rapist, inequality of women
- weird purity codes against pork & shellfish; mixing fibers, crops, animals; particular facial hairstyles; tattoos; body modification; etc.
- an afterlife that punishes nonbelievers who do good
all while claiming to be the final word of god. Arguing for good while referring to the Bible requires willfully overlooking all of that: it isn’t good.
- an afterlife that punishes nonbelievers who do good
Here’s a fun fact: that one is not in there. The Bible is consistent on that, at least. Death is death, but those who who are judged to be “righteous” will be given eternal life in a newly crafted reality. Everyone else goes back to dead.
But only believers can be “righteous”:
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:/Not of works, lest any man should boast. -Ephesians 2:8-9
While James pointed out that if your behavior doesn’t reflect belief, then you don’t actually believe. The point is that being showy doesn’t score you points, living by the principles — because you believe they are right — is all that matters.
Judaism has a concept for the Righteous Gentile. You don’t have to believe in their god, if you live by the Noachide moral precepts, even unintentionally, then you are righteous.
- vengeful god who
There were 2 big things that cover 90% of things Jesus said in the Bible.
- love people. Full stop. Yes, them too.
- don’t listen to hypocrites that make up religious rules and tell you you have to obey them.
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The other 10% includes Jesus declaring that you can’t conduct trade in a temple, and beating merchants with a whip.
“Man, how much waters did I have last night”
-Jesus (probably)
Remember, God doesn’t make mistakes. So if God made you trans and put you here in this time where you have the options to explore that, well… seems pretty clear to me.
It’s either all part of God’s plan, or none of it is.
I like how dickheads pick and choose which parts of the old testament to follow and which bits of the new to ignore as suits their bigotry and hate
Ecclesiastes 9:5 says dead is dead, directly contradicting everything about any afterlives or heaven. Christians pick and choose which parts to follow because they have to, it’s literally impossible to follow the entire thing.
For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
It also goes on to say go have fun and live your life. That does not some compatible with the strict puritan Christianity most seem to follow.
Go thy way, eat thy bread with joy, and drink thy wine with a merry heart; for God now accepteth thy works.
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Live joyfully with the wife whom thou lovest all the days of the life of thy vanity, which he hath given thee under the sun, all the days of thy vanity: for that is thy portion in this life, and in thy labour which thou takest under the sun.Well, why else do you think religions persist? Evolutionary pressure has selected it because it’s useful.
Even funnier when they never took any religious studies class or anything.
I hate gatekeeping too but “it’s up to interpretation” used to imply they know fundamentals of philosophy and have the necessary historic context knowledge to form opinions.
Hell, at some point they would have to learn latin or hebrew just to not have their arguments ignored instantly.
Meanwhile these people make fun of college philosophy lectures and only know history about WW2 and how germany could have “won” according to that one 4chan user.
If they heard anyone speaking hebrew they would call the police because “it sounded Arab.”
Wait, this depends on how someone views it… If they’re a fucking idiot with a child’s understanding, a binary reality means it requires altering someones’ body to transition. That’s the only perspective where it’s “modifying” someones’ body.
If you’re an adult with a developed brain and a basic highschool understanding of genetics, it’s not exactly modifying ones’ body, but merely influencing hormones to reflect how someone feels.
If you’re an adult with a collegiate level of understanding, then people ‘feeling’ like a different gender is the fucking tip of the iceberg, and genetics fucking demonstrates that it’s way more complex.
What is said in the bible, is that reality is more complex than dummies can understand, so leave judging up to God.
Well, I can’t remember exactly where but I know it’s in there somewhere.
he can’t remember because he never existed
He probably existed and if he did was most likely a great speaker but his stories are at least massively embellished.
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You make it sound like they have chosen to be that way.
Then you claim they force people “to adhere to their madness”
Which is wrong. They want people to stop down talking their self being. They want people to accept them as humans because people can’t just do that! Treating a humans like a human.
And this is what lot of assholes are against. Seeing that people who change gender are still people. Usually those assholes also don’t think women are equal to men which is why people changing gender makes them angry.
Cringe take that is factually wrong and out of step with modern, evidence -based medicine and research. Educate yourself before talking, otherwise people will think you’re stupid.
Bad take. What are they forcing you to do? Say him / her instead of her / him? Oh how difficult. If I legally changed my name from Derrick to Dennis are you gonna moan at that too? “Stop trying to be someone else”. Idiot.
We’re really stretching here to create division.
Not sure you want to appeal to the contents of the Bible. I’m sure somewhere in their fairy tale being trans is a sin.
God is trans by common definition; not male or female, both, neither. God is non-binary.
I completely agree that god came out as non-binary, in genesis, in terms of gender. In terms of biological sex, yahweh is male presenting (complete with bull horns and an oversized novelty cock). Despite their best efforts, the church didn’t manage to erase all the drawings from the early yahweh cult.
If those people could read that, they would be very upset
God is not trans because he doesn’t have a physical form. He could be considered nonbinary, and he does love those neopronouns He/Him
God is not trans because he doesn’t have a physical form. He could be considered nonbinary, and he does love those neopronouns He/Him
