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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/31924287
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I get the impression that the cops are about to hate facial recognition all of the sudden, for no particular reason
There’s a reason ICE conceal their faces.
They know what they’re doing is wrong and don’t want to be held accountable if their fascist rule collapses.
So just use one too and blend in. Put on a stupid Trump or racist hat, and if you are not white, put on gloves. Then surround them.
They know what they’re doing is wrong
Is that why the protestors wear them too?
Protestors or vandals and rioters?
The former: to prevent government persecution and unfair retaliation. The latter: yes.
Protestors or vandals and rioters?
Yes.
The former: to prevent government persecution and unfair retaliation.
Why would they face persecution if they did nothing wrong!?
The government has always had it out for protestors, to the extent that they’ll try and use agents provocateur to escalate the situation. They don’t want people to protest, they just want people to life back and take it. C’mon, you seriously asking this?
The point I’m trying to make is that everyone is wearing a mask for the same reason: to prevent retribution for their beliefs and according actions.
There’s a difference between wearing a mask because you are engaging in wrongdoing and wearing a mask to prevent unjust retaliation. Even if the actual motive is the same, the implications are very different
Your point is moot.
For the people by the people or did you forget?
Some beliefs require retribution. Some causes are righteous. Fuck off with your false equivalencies. Rioters aren’t employed by the people- law enforcement is.
Please post the entirety of your online history.
Surely there’s no reason to hide.
Whether what you’ve done is entirely legal (or not) authoritariaism doesn’t care.
What is done in a free society is punished by small men with anger control issues.
What you may find reasonable to say in a free society, could, under a government opposed to free expression, land you in el Segundo - without your wallet.
The gestapo hide their faces because they know what they do is wrong, and to hide from justice.
People who protest or simply appreciate privacy do so because they understand the potential for retribution and being disappeared.
Please post the entirety of your online history. Surely there’s no reason to hide.
…we’re talking about hiding though
Whether what you’ve done is entirely legal (or not) authoritariaism doesn’t care.
That goes both ways. That was my entire point.
Who is in power again? The protesters are not making anyone disappear. Goodbye, troll.
You think individuals can’t be targeted because they’re “in power”? Why do you think they’re wearing them?
Upvoted and agreed, not least because I just learned that “all of the sudden,” while at present a nonstandard variant of “all of a sudden,” has valid history.
And of course it doesn’t matter in this casual context!
But in formal writing, in this era, using “a” will avoid distracting the reader from your main point.
“All of the sudden” is only valid because it’s so commonly (incorrectly) used. Much as it annoys me, that’s just how language works.
“of the sudden” (1570) actually predates “of a sudden” (Shakespeare) according to my OED as squinted at through the nifty magnifying glass. But it’s been considered obsolete for a long time despite having all of a sudden experienced a resurgence.
(Note, I modernized the spellings of “sudden” rather than try to switch focus back and forth)
Can’t we just embrace adverbification and agree to write “suddenly”?
No! For made up reasons I don’t understand adverbs are verboten!
all of the suddenly?
If “all of the sudden” becomes standard I will definitely do this.
Nothing wrong with “suddenly.” I probably should have used it in my previous comment. It’s just that sometimes you want to say “all of a sudden.” Especially at storytime. The extra time helps build the suspense. “Suddenly” is more sudden in that it just jumps in there. With “all of a sudden,” the subject isn’t ready but the listeners are.
People aren’t saying it because they’re language scholars, it’s because they misheard the proper modern usage. So it goes for many language shifts.
Erin: “All of the sudden, I was awake.”
Non-Anglo here.
Totally not distracted bcs my brain autocorrected it to “all of a sudden” without even noticing.
A bit like “It deosn’t mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are”
Also never seen/heard the “the” variant. (Well consciously that is).
Cameras. They fucking hate body cameras. When it clears them of wrongdoing, they have the video ready. When they ‘accidentally’ shoot a guy nine times in the back of the head, video seems to be missing.
easily solvable problem: losing the footage is indication of guilt. you shoot someone, you better have it ready. it malfunctioned, better have a partner who has theirs ready. if no one has footage to clear you, it’s used as evidence of guilt.
of course pussy ass lawmakers will never do that.
I believe having lack of evidence being the evidence for a crime is problematic, but it sure is evidence enough that they aren’t fit for their job and they should immediately lose it. Everyone Including the supervisor who failed to run the team properly.
first of all it’s not lack of evidence, it is evidence itself. if the camera is not working that’s tampering with evidence and is a good indication of guilt.
second of all if you can have laws like felony murder you can sure as shit have this. if you commit a felony (like a robbery), don’t hurt anyone, and a cop murders a random person in response because they’re trigger happy pigs, you can be held responsible for the murder as if you committed it yourself.
my suggestion is far more reasonable compared to that: if you kill someone you better have evidence that it wasn’t foul play, because guess what, that’s what everyone needs to do. we don’t just allow people to kill and go free, and cops shouldn’t be exempt.
I heard a bit on NPR over the weekend talking about copaganda. Turns out body cams are beneficial to cops, because they can take that footage and selectively edit and release it to push a certain narrative.
If you’ve ever seen a clip on social media, it often starts a few seconds before the cop hits someone, rarely showing the full sequence of events that led up to that point.
And if they can’t edit the footage to make them look good? “Oops, we didn’t retrieve that footage in time so it was overwritten.”
If only CSI enhancing worked in real life, we could out the asshole on the far left.
far left
From his PoV, he’s actually standing on the far-right. Fitting lol
This is ILLEGAL when Working Class people Do It!
-Chuck Schumer at Some Point probably!
Is it me or is LA the only part of America doing anything resembling resistance?
I think it’s mainly LA that is seeing a large invasion of federal forces
For the moment
No, it’s happening everywhere. But I’ve also seen some significant resistance happening in other cities like NYC, Newark, Portland, Seattle, SF, etc.
It’s just you. There were mass protests across the country just a couple of weeks ago.
Unless you meant the senseless destruction of property.
Mass protests where people did nothing in particular. That is, in fact, not resistance. People in LA are actually making it harder for ICE to terrorize them.
Mass protests where people did nothing particular.
A mass protest, in and of itself, is not “nothing”.
People in LA are actually making it harder for ICE to terrorize them.
I would argue the opposite. You haven’t noticed the National Guard and Marines being deployed there?
A mass protest, in and of itself, is not “nothing”.
It is. What happened on June 14th was technically a mass protest, but it has none of the aspects that make a mass protest effective. In essence, that wasn’t a protest; it was a parade. They can, in theory, be used as a launching point for something more effective, but on their own? Yeah, nothing.
You haven’t noticed the National Guard and Marines being deployed there?
Okay and? They were deployed because ICE wasn’t able to do their jobs, and even now they’re suffering widespread harassment and obstruction. Not getting backlash because you did nothing isn’t the flex you think it is.
it has none of the aspects that make a mass protest effective
Oh please, do go on, what makes a protest effective? Nonsensical general destruction of your neighbors’ property?
Okay and?
Okay and…that’s bad?
Not getting backlash because you did nothing isn’t the flex you think it is.
Getting the marines and national guard deployed on you isn’t the flex you think it is.
Nonsensical general destruction of your neighbors’ property?
No, real obstruction of fascist activity. And, you know, turning out on a weekday. Mass protests work because, aside from the implicit threat of violence, they grind economic activity to a halt. That is simply not what happens when you parade for two hours on a Saturday.
No, real obstruction of fascist activity.
You’re using a bunch of general language. Why don’t you want to say what makes a protest effective?
Mass protests work because, aside from the implicit threat of violence, they grind economic activity to a halt.
Good luck not getting fired.
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Also, “Don’t violate people’s constitutional rights, which you must have at least tangentially sworn to protect and uphold.” 🤷♂️
another way to phrase it is “do your fucking job”
The job of the police is to protect capital.
“You hear them boys?! We are not to humiliate those idiots! LIVE ROUNDS BOYS!”
but what if they glare at me very menacingly, surely I can then shoot tear gas, pepper shot, beat people, and shoot non-lethal rounds at them, right?
they’re lookin at me Sarge. with their eyes.
I don’t think the people you’re asking to not be a power tripping asshole understand that combination of words.
So, shoot live rounds, then?
What are they so afraid of? They’re public servants, so they should be publicly identifiable. If they don’t like it, get off the government payroll
Because criminals get out of jail and can go after their families. We had someone leave a bomb on the doorstep of a judge in our neighborhood.
I’m a librarian. I also work with members of the public, some of whom do not share my understanding of reality. My information is still public because I’m a government employee.
That really sucks. But a lot of innocent people have the police break into their homes and murder them so it balances out.
Ahh yes of course, two wrongs have always made a right /s
It’s not about being right anymore, that’s never going to happen.
Such a shame. Anyway, I guess we’ll have to live with the consequences of technology.
That’s a fair concern to a degree of course even the most fair sentences might have a disgruntled person on the other end of it but a fair justice system that serves and protects its community equally has little to fear overall. When a justice system is unfair, unequal, does not serve or protects its community that risk goes way up however they only have themselves to blame for the increased risk. An occasional crazy is just the price of being a human but if the public in general is against you, you’ve done that to yourself through your own actions
There is resistance everywhere, but LA was a special target for the GOP. They are gearing up to make Chicago just as hot here soon.
I wasn’t expecting crims to go after their own families, but I’m here for it….
Was the judge a dick head?
If I remember correctly they were convicted of embezzlement. Narcissists and psychopaths get mad when they are held accountable.
nice.
Is there one for ice too?
No. Those are gravy Seal wannabees. Ice isn’t doing anything on the streets. They are doing the behind the scenes stuff. Deputized bounty hunters are the ones in the streets. No badge, no authority, and as you know instantly disavowed.
So the people doing the snatching are gig workers? Is there a TaskRabbit for fascism?
Lol but yes
Also what about cops outside of the LAPD? This app only useful if it works on any cop.
Police the police
Lmao let’s see how long it takes them to shut this down
Now do ICE!
Since they’re typically masked, I’d like to see gait recognition serve the working class for once.
I was thinking this too! Gait recognition can completely bypass facial coverings as a means of identification, but I also don’t think it’ll be much help here.
Gait recognition can be bypassed by things as simple as putting a rock in your shoe so you walk differently, so when you think about how much extra heavy gear, different shoes, and different overall movement patterns ICE agents will possibly be engaging in, it might not hold up well at tracking them down, especially since to recognize someone by gait, you’d need footage of them that you can already identify them in, to then train the model on.
In the case of fucklapd.com, this was easy because they could just get public record data for headshot photos, but there isn’t a comparable database with names directly tied to it for gait. I will say though, a lot of these undercover agents might be easier to track by gait since they’ll still generally be wearing more normal attire, and it might be more possible to associate them with who they are outside of work since it’s easier to slip up when you’re just wearing normal clothes.
A lot of masks only work in the visible light spectrum. It’s entirely possible to “radar” images and remove them.
oh good my phone is set up for that?
I found this link on the internet and have no affiliation:
is that just user submitted or do they have some sort of verification process (don’t ask me what it would be i can only think of stuff that works with nonfascist governments right now) because, well us and ours have fucked with similar forms too (e.g. that one texas abortion bounty hunter form comes to mind first)
What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. But this shit will get sued so quick because “safety”
hail hydra?
Good. ACAB.
